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    Yiddish: A Variant of Middle High German...

    It is often forgotten that Yiddish is a variant of Middle High German, and within the family tree of Germanic languages. Wikipedia has an interesting summary of the language.

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    Re: Yiddish

    Yeah, I know this. Its a cool language. I beleive it is closest to "plattsdeutch" (spelling?)....which is most common around Hamburg. I like the "harshness" of the guttoral sounds in Yiddish.

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    AW: Re: Yiddish

    I beleive it is closest to "plattsdeutch" (spelling?)....
    No i don't think that you should compare yiddish with plattdeutsch(Plautdietsch- common among Mennonites)!Yiddish is high german and plattdeutsch is low german,yiddish involves slavic and roman words,i can not see those elements in plattdeutsch!!

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    Re: Yiddish

    I love the Yiddish language, I use so many of its idioms that people are always surprised to find out that I'm not Jewish.

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    Re: Yiddish

    True.

    It is also often forgotten that Ebonics is a variant of English, and actually a Germanic language. Wikipedia has an interesting summary of the language.
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    AW: Yiddish

    I´ve heard some Jiddisch on the TV some time ago and it sounded awful to my ears. I´m not joking, it really has a very very strange sound to me. Sounds like a grinning Russian speaking German without loosing his Russian style of speaking
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    Re: AW: Yiddish

    I'm a lowland Scot and the old Scots tongue is Germanic so the sounds of Yiddish seem really familiar to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Runenrauner View Post
    I´ve heard some Jiddisch on the TV some time ago and it sounded awful to my ears. I´m not joking, it really has a very very strange sound to me. Sounds like a grinning Russian speaking German without loosing his Russian style of speaking

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    Re: AW: Re: Yiddish

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorkämpfer View Post
    No i don't think that you should compare yiddish with plattdeutsch(Plautdietsch- common among Mennonites)!Yiddish is high german and plattdeutsch is low german,yiddish involves slavic and roman words,i can not see those elements in plattdeutsch!!
    It says Yiddish is "middle-high German". I saw something about it similarity to Plattdeutsch, but I cant find it now. Once I find it, I will post it.

    The oldest surviving literary document in Yiddish is a blessing in a Hebrew prayer book from 1272 (described extensively in Frakes 2004 and Baumgarten/Frakes 2005):

    גוּט טַק אִים בְּטַגְֿא שְ וַיר דִּיש מַחֲזֹור אִין בֵּיתֿ הַכְּנֶסֶתֿ טְרַגְֿא
    transliterated,

    gut tak im betage se vaer dis makhazor in beis hakneses terage

    and translated,

    may a good day come to him who carries this prayer book into the synagogue.

    This brief rhyme is decoratively embedded in a purely Hebrew text (a reproduction of which is in Katz 2004). Nonetheless, it indicates that the Yiddish of that day was a more or less regular Middle High German into which Hebrew words — makhazor (prayer book for the High Holy Days) and beis hakneses (synagogue) — had been included.

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: Yiddish

    Yiddish sounds like a drunk Polak with a hiccup trying to speak Bavarian. What a silly babbling!
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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Yiddish

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop View Post
    Yiddish sounds like a drunk Polak with a hiccup trying to speak Bavarian. What a silly babbling!
    Really? I dont think so at all. I find Bavarian to sound very "soft"...Bavarians pronounce many of their "ch" (throat sounds) as "sh" as in the english word "shy". I find Yiddish to sound much more like the northern German dialects, which are harsher sounding. (which I like)

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