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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    They have managed to live by themselves under their beliefs while maintaining stable populations without outside interference. They are fine in their own space with their own beliefs, as all ethnic groups are entitled to. They should be stopped from interfering with other groups (as all should), and if effects are created which impact on others (excessive industrialism) measures should be taken. However, african tribes seem fine by themselves. They don't want the european superman, and don't want/need stupid judeo-christian morality that has a big cry whenever someone dies. Excessive overpopulation would be delt with as it should be with every ethnic group. Most whites and the large part of the planet should be of to the gas chambers. 50 million people of the best ethnic groups have to show are worth more than 6/7 billion retards who destroy everything they touch.
    Negroes seem to live alright when left to their own devices ie. living in the stone-age. But look at many african countries and Haiti and they're pretty unstable when given technology they themselves could not create.

    There are too many humans on this planet. I'd spare 500 million of the most creative, highest intelligence, least genetically flawed.
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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    His approach is anything but Hobbesian, I can assure you. I like it a lot as well - I would allow for a limited amount of State provision in terms of basics, of course, to keep the indolent masses from rising up, but I am pretty much in agreement with OFS on all accounts. A swiss-style immigration system would work nicely with such a kingdom. I'd apply such a system to a white break away ZA nation. ^^
    Well I was referring to OFS's approach as Hobbesian merely in the idea of an absolute monarchy (in other words, a place where the buck stops). Aside from that, right, I didn't take what he said to be Hobbesian in any sort of deeper sense. They definitely wouldn't go together.

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    I would be in favour of the global population dropping to 10% of its current amounts - and gas chambers needn't be used. Something much simpler can be done. The government can merely apply a one child policy to 5% of the population and a no-child policy to the rest: the end result will be a drastic, non-violent reduction of global population. Such government action goes against my liberal beliefs, but huge populations are anathema to liberal ideas anyway. So we could treat this as a transitive stage.
    Interesting idea...How would your system enforce it though?

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    Sv: Your Perfect Political System

    Ideal state huh. Well at the top of the societal hierarchy i would want a council consisting a number of people with expert knowledge in the most important fields of society that would act as advisors/discussion group/reserve government. I would lead this council and be the supreme ruler in the nation for life (sort of like a monarch). We would together write a constitution, outlining the basic political direction for Sweden.

    The only one with the authority to change anything in this constitution would be myself. Issues that would be adressed in the constitution would be of course the form of rule, freedoms that are to be enjoyed by the Swedish people, political parties in the parliament being forced to have a paleo conservative political agenda etc. It would touch specific issues of importance and state the policies which must be driven by the government in charge. It would put the armed forces of Sweden directly under my command and it would also outline minimum requirements for the size of the same, i alone would have complete controll over the military (with the aid of the top military generals in the nation of course).

    I would of course reshape Sweden according to my political conviction before i let a regular government assume controll again, and the important changes would be protected by the constitution.

    And so we come to the parliament. I would keep the current system of elections and parliament and let the elected government have controll over every field in society except the military. Every government would have to comply with the constitution and the policies that are outlined in it. It would be up to me to accept or deny a political party controll over the Swedish parliament. I would also have the power to overthrow the government at any given moment if i would feel that they didn't follow the guidelines of the constitution. But as long as the government follows the guidelines they have pretty much complete freedom (as long as they follow the constitution) to realise their own policies and agendas according to the wishes of the people as expressed through the ballot box.

    Throughout my time as a ruler, a search for an appropriate apprentice would of course be under taken, so that when i pass away, an equally (preferably even better) qualified (both in terms of education, intelligence, political convictions, charachter and moral conviction) can take over and lead the country into a new, even greater era.

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    Re: Sv: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik View Post
    Ideal state huh. Well at the top of the societal hierarchy i would want a council consisting a number of people with expert knowledge in the most important fields of society that would act as advisors/discussion group/reserve government. I would lead this council and be the supreme ruler in the nation for life (sort of like a monarch). We would together write a constitution, outlining the basic political direction for Sweden.

    The only one with the authority to change anything in this constitution would be myself. Issues that would be adressed in the constitution would be of course the form of rule, freedoms that are to be enjoyed by the Swedish people, political parties in the parliament being forced to have a paleo conservative political agenda etc. It would touch specific issues of importance and state the policies which must be driven by the government in charge. It would put the armed forces of Sweden directly under my command and it would also outline minimum requirements for the size of the same, i alone would have complete controll over the military (with the aid of the top military generals in the nation of course).

    I would of course reshape Sweden according to my political conviction before i let a regular government assume controll again, and the important changes would be protected by the constitution.

    And so we come to the parliament. I would keep the current system of elections and parliament and let the elected government have controll over every field in society except the military. Every government would have to comply with the constitution and the policies that are outlined in it. It would be up to me to accept or deny a political party controll over the Swedish parliament. I would also have the power to overthrow the government at any given moment if i would feel that they didn't follow the guidelines of the constitution. But as long as the government follows the guidelines they have pretty much complete freedom (as long as they follow the constitution) to realise their own policies and agendas according to the wishes of the people as expressed through the ballot box.

    Throughout my time as a ruler, a search for an appropriate apprentice would of course be under taken, so that when i pass away, an equally (preferably even better) qualified (both in terms of education, intelligence, political convictions, charachter and moral conviction) can take over and lead the country into a new, even greater era.
    I definitely like your rendition of a pseudo-constitutional monarchy (even though, as you said, it wouldn't necessarily be in a lot of ways). Although I'm much more in favor of a sort of republic (within reason), if I had to choose between a hereditary monarchy and one where the monarch is chosen based on his/her abilities/politics, I'd choose the latter. In my opinion, there's way too much stagnation involved in a hereditary monarchy.

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by Maryland View Post
    Interesting idea...How would your system enforce it though?
    It's largely irrelevant to the system that OFS and that we support, because this system is already tailored to wealthier, smaller countries. In short, it wouldn't enforce it as the nations requiring this to take place would be too large to sustain it. What would happen ideally is, like I said, a transitive stage between systems, which could be mild totalitarianism. Personally, I think this would be far preferrable to killing billions. After population is reduced drastically, new systems can replace the transitive one.

    I definitely like your rendition of a pseudo-constitutional monarchy (even though, as you said, it wouldn't necessarily be in a lot of ways). Although I'm much more in favor of a sort of republic (within reason), if I had to choose between a hereditary monarchy and one where the monarch is chosen based on his/her abilities/politics, I'd choose the latter. In my opinion, there's way too much stagnation involved in a hereditary monarchy.
    I agree on this. However, to disambiguate, the minarchist kingdom advanced by OFS entrusts very little power in the hands of the government - the Monarch is more of a watchperson (or custodian) than a ruler in reality, enforcing the rules of the system. Now, if one opts for a Platonic-style Monarchy and/or Aristocracy (essentially a meritocratic one), it's a matter of choice really - the system can work with either.

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by SineNomine View Post
    It's largely irrelevant to the system that OFS and that we support, because this system is already tailored to wealthier, smaller countries. In short, it wouldn't enforce it as the nations requiring this to take place would be too large to sustain it. What would happen ideally is, like I said, a transitive stage between systems, which could be mild totalitarianism. Personally, I think this would be far preferrable to killing billions. After population is reduced drastically, new systems can replace the transitive one.


    I agree on this. However, to disambiguate, the minarchist kingdom advanced by OFS entrusts very little power in the hands of the government - the Monarch is more of a watchperson (or custodian) than a ruler in reality, enforcing the rules of the system. Now, if one opts for a Platonic-style Monarchy and/or Aristocracy (essentially a meritocratic one), it's a matter of choice really - the system can work with either.
    Right, the custodial role of a monarch is one of the very reasons why I'm in favor of something of that sort.

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Ideally, I would like to live in an all White Libertarian society where the Rule of Law was simply that one could do whatever one wanted as long as they did not infringe upon the liberty, property, or life rights of others. This would be a Utopia on earth for me. If the people were like-minded and worked on eugenics as a society to create a more developed Aryan, and also harbored nationalistic and tribal sentiments coupled with a deep love for our Kulture to boot, I would be in paradise indeed!

    www.isil.org has an animation on Liberty which pretty much sums this up, minus the Racial aspect of course. Unfortunately, there are just too many flocks of sheeple bleating amongst us for this to become a reality in my lifetime I am afraid. But we have to try!

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    To clarify;

    There is no need for violent transition. Looked at as a business proposition, all you would need to do is either find a big enough parcel of empty land, or alternatively find an ideal location and buy the land from the existing land owners.

    The big problem is that existing states do not like giving up territory and no matter how massive Eurasia and Africa are, all the land is already under a jurisdiction. So short of well-executed secession movement, a pre-agreement would be needed with the incumbent ruler (perhaps a financial share in one of the new kingdom's projects).

    Of course, the Free State Project is a similar idea; but flawed. They chose the wrong location, i.e. New Hampshire (densely populated / many ppl inimcal to freedom) instead of a sparsely populated rural state.

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    Re; monarchs, it is pot luck as to whether you get a good or bad ruler.

    But he/she will be surrounded with advisers and there are a whole bunch of positive incentives. One example: the monarch will want to leave a good political inheritance for his heirs. I.e., no debt, a prosperous kingdom.

    Under democracy, a bad man, a demagogue, is guaranteed. And he has no incentive to look after the state, since he will only be in power for 4, 5 or at most 10 years. The democratic ruler's debts and wars (and other problems) will be passed on to the next hapless incumbent.

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    Re: Your Perfect Political System

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon View Post
    To clarify;

    Of course, the Free State Project is a similar idea; but flawed. They chose the wrong location, i.e. New Hampshire (densely populated / many ppl inimcal to freedom) instead of a sparsely populated rural state.
    I agree. I started a poll a while back about where in the world would be best for Aryans to move to in order to live a good racial life? I am considering Alaska, Canada, Siberia or one of the Scandinavian counties personally. Any suggetions and why?

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