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    Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Moslems?

    By ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer 40 minutes ago

    PARIS - Pig's tail, pig's feet and other pig parts, all tossed into a pot with turnips, carrots and onions. Perfumed with smoked bacon and served steaming hot. Delicious!


    But there's trouble brewing in this broth.
    Small groups linked to the extreme right are ladling pork soup to France's homeless. Critics and some officials denounce the charity as discriminatory: because it contains pork, the soup is off-limits for Muslims.
    Critics view the stew — dubbed "identity soup" by its cooks — as a cynical far-right ploy to penetrate the most vulnerable level of society while masking their intentions as humanitarian.
    The associations offering the soup are satellites of Bloc Identitaire, a small, extreme-right movement that defends the European identity and, as its leader Fabrice Robert said, "the rights of the little whites."
    "It's not that we don't like Muslims. It's a problem of critical mass," Robert said in a telephone interview. "Just 1,000 Muslims in France poses no problem, but 6 million poses a big problem."
    The country's Muslim population — the largest in western Europe — is estimated at 5 million, many of them French citizens.
    The associations deny any ties to the far-right National Front party, which opposes Muslim immigration and built its reputation around the theme of "French first."
    Still, the National Front salutes the pork soup project.
    "One has the right to be charitable toward whom one wants," said Bruno Gollnisch, the party's No. 2. Moves to forbid soup kitchens offering pork reveal authorities' "alienation" from the French people, he said.
    Pork soup is an age-old staple of the rural heartland from which all the French, at least in the national imagination, are said to spring.
    The groups dishing up the soup say their victuals are no more than traditional French cuisine and deny they are serving up a message of racial hatred — a crime in France — or that they would refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew.
    In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order.
    "Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," said a statement by Strasbourg Mayor Fabienne Keller.
    More than a dozen police surrounded volunteers at a recent soup distribution at Paris' Montparnasse train station. Once police determined there was pork in the broth, they ordered the 10-gallon container sealed because the group had no permit.
    There has been no outright ban on pork soup giveaways in Paris, but police have been using the permit issue as a way to shut down the kitchens and avert racial tensions.
    Volunteers at the train station nodded their heads toward the line of police officers and mumbled about "thought police."
    "I want the French to feel at home in France," said Louis Castay, 75, a volunteer and former National Front member who long held a seat on the Paris region's municipal council.
    "We want to put an end to this anti-French racism." His remarks reflect the Bloc Identitaire's view that needy French are wait-listed for social services in favor of immigrant Muslims.
    This is the third winter "identity soup" is being offered in Paris. But its spread to Nice, Strasbourg and Nantes as well as Belgium is raising eyebrows.
    A leading anti-racism group has urged Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to ban pork soup giveaways throughout France.
    For Bernadette Hatier, vice president of the Movement Against Racism and for Friendship Between Peoples, the real motive of the soup servers is to drum up far-right votes ahead of 2007 presidential elections.
    National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen shocked the nation and the world in the last presidential vote in 2002 with his second-place showing behind President Jacques Chirac.
    However, a leading expert on the extreme right dismissed any notion of a political future for the pork soup movement.
    "They are trying to profit from a context of fear of immigrants" following November unrest in heavily immigrant neighborhoods, said Nonna Mayer.
    But the proportion of French who think there are too many immigrants has fallen — from 73 percent in 1995 to 63 percent today, she said.
    Many of the homeless lining up for pork soup seemed oblivious to the debate.
    "All associations in Paris give out ham or bacon. It's like roast beef in Britain," said 45-year-old former farm worker Daniel, who declined to give his last name.

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    French Government Crackdown on 'Racist Soup'

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    Charity groups with far-right links serving pork soup to homeless people face a crackdown by French officials.

    Protesters have accused the groups of deliberate discrimination against Jews and Muslims, who do not eat the meat.

    Strasbourg officials have banned the hand-outs and police in Paris have closed soup kitchens in an effort to avert racial tension.

    The charities have defended offering what they call traditional cuisine to French and European homeless people.

    The groups, operating in cities across France and neighbouring Belgium, are not formally linked but are associated with a small far-right organisation called Bloc Identitaire.

    'Racial tensions'

    Identity Soup, as it has been dubbed by its chefs, was banned in Strasbourg this month after officials ruled it could lead to public disorder.

    "Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," Strasbourg's mayor Fabienne Keller said.

    Although no ban exists in Paris, police have closed soup kitchens in the capital's Montparnasse and Gare de l'Est train stations on administrative grounds.

    Volunteers were ordered to re-seal soup containers on the basis they did not have the necessary permits to distribute food.



    The operation has drawn as many protesters as homeless people


    A leading French anti-racism movement has urged Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to ban pork soup give-aways throughout the country.

    Bernadette Hatier, vice president of the Movement Against Racism and for Friendship Between Peoples, said the scheme was a ploy to drum up far-right votes ahead of 2007 presidential elections.

    'Nothing illegal'

    Many local authorities have said they are powerless to intervene as the groups are not breaking the law.

    National Front spokesman Bruno Gollinisch said that people had the right to be charitable to whomever they want.

    He described moves to ban the pork soup kitchens as "revelatory of authorities' alienation from the French people".

    Dominique Lescure, head of the Nice-based group Soulidarieta, said pork was a traditional part of French cuisine.

    But he admitted wanting to serve the soup to what he called his "compatriots and European homeless people". France's Muslim population is the largest in western Europe and is estimated at five million.

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    Far-right groups exclude Muslims by offering pork soup to homeless



    January 25, 2006
    BY ELAINE GANLEY


    PARIS -- Pig's tail, pig's feet and other pig parts, all tossed into a pot with turnips, carrots and onions. Perfumed with smoked bacon and served steaming hot. Delicious!

    But there's trouble brewing in this broth.

    Small groups linked to the extreme right are ladling pork soup to France's homeless. Critics and some officials denounce the charity as discriminatory: because it contains pork, the soup is off-limits for Muslims.

    Critics view the stew -- dubbed "identity soup" by its cooks -- as a cynical far-right ploy to penetrate the most vulnerable level of society while masking their intentions as humanitarian.

    The associations offering the soup are satellites of Bloc Identitaire, a small, extreme-right movement that defends the European identity and, as its leader Fabrice Robert said, "the rights of the little whites."

    "It's not that we don't like Muslims. It's a problem of critical mass," Robert said in a phone interview. "Just 1,000 Muslims in France poses no problem, but 6 million poses a big problem."

    Pork soup banned in Strasbourg


    The country's Muslim population -- the largest in western Europe -- is estimated at 5 million, many of them French citizens.

    The associations deny any ties to the far-right National Front party, which opposes Muslim immigration and built its reputation around the theme of "French first."

    Still, the National Front salutes the pork soup project.

    "One has the right to be charitable toward whom one wants," said Bruno Gollnisch, the party's No. 2. Moves to forbid soup kitchens offering pork reveal authorities' "alienation" from the French people, he said.

    Pork soup is an age-old staple of the rural heartland from which all the French, at least in the national imagination, are said to spring.

    The groups dishing up the soup say their victuals are no more than traditional French cuisine and deny they are serving up a message of racial hatred -- a crime in France -- or that they would refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew.

    In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order. "Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," said a statement by Strasbourg Mayor Fabienne Keller.

    More than a dozen police surrounded volunteers at a recent soup distribution at Paris' Montparnasse train station. Once police determined there was pork in the broth, they ordered the container sealed because the group had no permit.



    AP

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    I read of this before. What a great idea!

    In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order.
    :laugh:
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    Bloody hell! :

    Poor homeless people have to starve because the lefties say that Jews and Muslims don't eat the soup.

    Well, then let's abolish it for all, huh? Just learn that sometimes you can't satisfy all people's wishes! :speechles
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    Re: Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Muslims?

    The only discrimination I can see here is, once more, aimed at natives and native homeless, and their customs overall. If it wasn't so serious, this story would pass for a really funny goof.

    Unfortunately, it seems the authorities don't want to laugh; what the heck, the threat is too serious! A peacefull pork soup organisation with maybe twenty supporters! The high authorities are like "Wow! Repression! We've to act! Save the democracy! Let's send the Police!" In the mean time, millions of immigrants (aka "youngs") are free to burn, trash and rape this country and behave like masters with natives (lots of "our" women love that... as for men, they're just gutless slaves). The authorities declare : "We must dialog"... If it's not discriminatory toward the autochtonous population, what's it?

    Seeing the evolution of this story, I think we're living in a pre-Islamic Republic. The prohibition stage. We've anti-Alcohol campaigns already, pork will be soon outlaw. Who'll be our Elliott Ness?
    Anyways, the Islamic Republic is close. We lower our trousers right now, they don't even have to fight to conquer this bloody country and its disgusting amorphous population.

    Vive le porc!
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    Re: Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Muslims?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weg
    The only discrimination I can see here is, once more, aimed at natives and native homeless, and their customs overall. If it wasn't so serious, this story would pass for a really funny goof.

    Unfortunately, it seems the authorities don't want to laugh; what the heck, the threat is too serious! A peacefull pork soup organisation with maybe twenty supporters! The high authorities are like "Wow! Repression! We've to act! Save the democracy! Let's send the Police!" In the mean time, millions of immigrants (aka "youngs") are free to burn, trash and rape this country and behave like masters with natives (lots of "our" women love that... as for men, they're just gutless slaves). The authorities declare : "We must dialog"... If it's not discriminatory toward the autochtonous population, what's it?

    Seeing the evolution of this story, I think we're living in a pre-Islamic Republic. The prohibition stage. We've anti-Alcohol campaigns already, pork will be soon outlaw. Who'll be our Elliott Ness?
    Anyways, the Islamic Republic is close. We lower our trousers right now, they don't even have to fight to conquer this bloody country and its disgusting amorphous population.

    Vive le porc!
    hell yeah, how does anyone expect to outlaw a certain type of soup unless the paralement is swayed by a large muslim voting mass, did you just say they've had anti-alcohol campaigns?! it actually does sound like they are trying to destory what makes partying,partying and what makes us European

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    Re: Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Muslims?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoyceSS
    hell yeah, how does anyone expect to outlaw a certain type of soup unless the paralement is swayed by a large muslim voting mass,
    This is beginning to be very fucking scary. They're in a minority -a big one but still a minority-, though their volunty counts more than ours.

    did you just say they've had anti-alcohol campaigns?!
    Yeah, they attack wine (French drink less and less wine btw) and alcohol. Campaigns are kind of like "drink less alcohol", "more than 2 glasses of wine in a day is bad for health", "he who drives don't drink", blahblah; their pretext : saving lives (because of car accidents due to alcohol). "Saving" 4.000 persons' life while they kill 200.000 babies and more a year with abortions... What a logic!... Anyway, that's enough to distract French and camouflage the bigger issues.

    it actually does sound like they are trying to destory what makes partying,partying and what makes us European
    Exactly what they're trying to do destroying our identities.
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    Re: Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Muslims?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weg

    Seeing the evolution of this story, I think we're living in a pre-Islamic Republic. The prohibition stage. We've anti-Alcohol campaigns already, pork will be soon outlaw. Who'll be our Elliott Ness?
    Anyways, the Islamic Republic is close. We lower our trousers right now, they don't even have to fight to conquer this bloody country and its disgusting amorphous population.

    Vive le porc!
    You are right I think, there are historical trends right now in the direction towards an Islamic Republic (luckily there are other trends as well).

    Recently in Denmark, two immigrant youth attacked a sausage-salesman because he was selling "unclean meat". They also called him "dane-pig" apparently.

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    Re: Pork Soup = Racist Ploy Against Muslims?

    I find in most Western countries they favour the poor minorities to the poor whites. Here in Canada, the only people you see on the streets bumming for change or squeegeeing your windshields are whites. There are no non-whites on the streets. There are no non-whites in our soup kitchens. They all get welfare checks and live in government-subsidized housing that white people cannot move into (so they resort to the streets).

    The same is going in Europe it appears.

    Then there is the way poor whites are treated. They are referred to as "trailer trash", "hillbillies", or "white trash" and it's believed that these people are poor because of their own doing. Meanwhile, poor non-whites are portrayed as "downtrodden" or "victims of the system". This mentality has got to stop, and we need to look after our Folk.
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