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    Post Jewish Communities in Pre-War Poland: Insular Strangers

    Poles and Jews
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    With some exceptions among individuals, and with the exception of commercial transactions, Jewish communities in pre-war Poland largely functioned as insular, self-absorbed, elitist, and self-positioned "strangers" in Polish society. The gulf between Polish Christians and Jews was enormous; in pre-Holocaust Poland, for example, the intermarriage rate between Poles and Jews was only one per cent. This ethnic isolation was self-imposed by Jews from the earliest times of their residence in Poland. Most Jews consciously chose not to assimilate into Polish society, many could not even speak Polish, and few had friendly relationships with the non-Jews around them.

    "In prewar Poland," notes Wladyslaw Krajewski, a Polish Jew, "... the majority of Jews did not regard themselves as Poles. Growing up for the most part in Jewish environments, they observed only the Jewish customs and religion, spoke only Yiddish at home, and generally spoke Polish poorly." [Krajewski, 96-97] Norman Salsitz describes growing up in a Jewish community in a Polish town and discovering that many Jews did not even know what the Polish flag looked like. [Salsitz, N., 1992, 73] In 1936, Jewish voting patterns in Poland (in their self-governing kehillah organizations) revealed a 38 percent vote for the Bund party (a group emphasizing a Jewish, as opposed to Polish, identity), 36 percent vote for Zionist lists (the return to Israel group), and religious Orthodox (religiously anti-Gentile) and "middle-class" groups at about 23 percent. [Gitelman]

    Jewish self-segregation was the norm for most Jews of Eastern Europe. "Jewish separatism," notes Jewish author Eva Hoffman about Poland, "was also an active choice, and it also had its consequences. It meant that Jewish individuals and communities cultivated their own alienness, and that although they were willing to engage in contractual relations with the Poles, they did not wish to enter into a shared world with them." [Hoffman, 63]


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    Post Re: Poles and Jews

    I would think that would be the desired state for Polish Jews. Would you rather have Jews freely intermarrying with Gentiles, or a separate Jewish society?

    Besides, isn't that what most WNs want as well - the freedom to have a separate nation within a nation?
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    Post Re: Poles and Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by Laedifox
    I would think that would be the desired state for Polish Jews. Would you rather have Jews freely intermarrying with Gentiles, or a separate Jewish society?

    Besides, isn't that what most WNs want as well - the freedom to have a separate nation within a nation?
    mhmm indeed. It just goes to show that the Jew will never fully assimilate among Europeans, only enough to appear to belong. They are not European, they never have been and never will be.

    I would rather have Jews out of white society though. Let them have Israel and let the Palestinians deal with them. Us whites have dealt with Jews for too long.

    I am not WN, so i could not tell you what WN want. As a Racial Socialist I want, in the end, an all white world.

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    Post Re: Poles and Jews

    What about all those Jews who died in Warsaw? I am sure, sure, these were all old men, women and children. The reason I say this is that all young Jewish men did enlist in the Polish Army, right? They did enter military service since they were directly threatned by the Nazis and wanted to do their own fighting, right? All across Europe in 1939, Jews enlisted in the Armies fighting the Nazis en mass, right? In fact, if it were not for this mass enlistment, no Jewish men would have survived the holocaust, right? Now that I look back, I see that every one of the thousands of Jewish males who has come on television in the United States over the last 50 years and explained that they were holocaust survivors---well, they were all in the armed services at the time, fighting for truth, justice and fairness. Arn't we lucky to have so many Jews in our world!

    Something similar happened here recently. It was the mass enlistment of Jews in the American Army following the events of 9/11. The entire male student body of New York University enlisted and marched off to war to avenge the attack on the World Trade Center---don't you remember this?
    I feel so much safer having so many Jewish warriors protecting me.

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