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    "Mr. and Mrs. America--you are wrong. I am not the King of the Jews nor am I a hippie cult leader. I am what you have made me and the mad dog devil killer fiend leper is a reflection of your society. . .Whatever the outcome of this madness that you call a fair trial or Christian justice, you can know this: In my mind's eye my thoughts light fires in your cities."

    Thus spoke the mad man Charles Manson upon being convicted for the Tate-LaBianca murders. Before going further, it must be said that society can and must protect itself from monsters such as Manson; if that means locking people up forever so be it. But the question must be asked, how and why did it come to this; a poorly educated, middle-aged man, who in the late 1960's had a following of at times more than a hundred young adults being able to direct some of the said members to murder at his command? To answer that it can be helpful to delve into the backgrounds of some of the prominent members of the group that made up "the Manson Family".

    Charles Manson

    Charles Manson was born to a promiscuous sixteen-year-old girl named Kathleen Maddox on November 12, 1934 in Cincinnati. His presumed father was a "Colonel Scott" of Ashland Kentucky, whom Manson never met. It is said that his mother, who was an alcoholic and part time prostitute, once "sold" Charles to a waitress for a pitcher of beer; the waitress, horrified, informed the authorities who in turn returned Charles promptly to his mother. Yes, the very same mother who had just "sold" him. When Manson was five, his mother received a five-year sentence for armed robbery, and Manson moved in with his aunt and uncle in West Virginia. His mother reclaimed him in 1942 when she was paroled, but within five years her heavy drinking led to Manson's being placed in a caretaking school in Indiana. School officials described young Manson as moody and suffering a persecution complex--but "likable" during those periods he was feeling happy.



    At age 13, Manson began his life of crime, robbing a grocery store and a casino. For most of the next decade, Manson was shuffled from one institution to another, usually committing a series of crimes during his brief periods of freedom. By age 16, Manson had been labeled "aggressively antisocial." A prison psychiatrist described Manson at age 18 as suffering "psychic trauma," but still "an extremely sensitive boy who has not yet given up in terms of securing some love and affection from the world."

    Released on parole in 1958, Manson took to pimping. In June 1960, Manson was arrested on a Mann Act charge. The Mann Act charges were dropped, but Manson was given a ten-year sentence for violating



    the parole terms relating to an earlier federal conviction for forging a Treasury check. Prison records from the early 1960s show Manson as having interests in Scientology, drama, softball, croquet, and--especially
    --the guitar. By the mid-1960s, Manson became obsessed with the music of the Beatles. When Manson's release date came on March 21, 1967, Manson begged authorities to let him stay in prison, but he was told they had no power to allow him to do so.

    Manson, age 32, headed for San Francisco and there gave birth to what would soon be called "The Family." Manson became the unquestioned head of the Family. He dominated lives, even to the point of telling Family members who they must have sex with. To some members of the Family, Manson represented a "Christ-like" figure. He encouraged


    such talk, sometimes asking a Family member, "Don't you know who I am?"

    Combining ideas taken from the Beatles White Album and the Bible's Book of Revelation, Manson developed a bizarre prophecy that blacks would soon rise up against the white establishment and then turn to him--having survived the coming "Helter Skelter in an underground pleasure dome beneath Death Valley--to lead the newly constituted nation. In August 1969, in the hopes of giving Helter Skelter a push, Manson sent a team of Family members on their murderous missions to the Tate and LaBianca homes.

    Convicted and sentenced to death largely on the evidence of Family member Linda Kasabian, Manson saw his death sentence commuted to life in prison following a 1976 California Supreme Court decision



    declaring the state's death penalty law unconstitutional.

    In his own testimony at trial, Manson described himself as a chameleon-like character: "Charlie never projects himself....People see in Charlie their own reflection....Linda Kasabian testified against me because she saw me as the father she never liked....I do what love tells me."

    Since his conviction, Manson has been denied parole ten times, most recently in 2002.
    He is given almost no hope of ever being released. He currently resides in a maximum security section of a state penitentiary in Concoran, California.

    Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme

    Born in Santa Monica, California, on October 22, 1948, Lynette Alice Fromme grew up in Westchester, California where her father William worked as an aeronautical engineer. Lyn was the first of 3 children, was a talented, well-liked child that toured throughout the United States and Canada in a song and dance troop called the Lariats. In Junior High School Lynette was active with many after school activities. She was a member of the Athenian Honor Society as well as the Girls Athletic Club. In her drama class Lyn befriended a young Phil Hartman, who eventually gained fame on shows like Saturday Night Live, The Simpsons, & Newsradio. When her class gave out superlatives, Lynette was voted "Personality Plus".

    As Lyn grew older, the relationship between her and her father grew apart. Neighbors remembered William Fromme as a tyrant-like figure, who seemed to punish Lyn for little or nothing at all. Lyn's father is said to have been jealous of his daughter's successes to the point of having required her to eat separately from the rest of the family at meals. In High School, Lynette became more rebellious, using drugs and alcohol. She worked in a Canvas shop where coworkers would see Lyn burn herself with lit cigarettes, and shoot staples into her forearm with a staple gun. She briefly dated Bill Siddons, who went on to be the road manager of The Doors. However, Siddons' mother felt that Lyn was disturbed, and talked Bill into steering clear of her.

    After High School, Lynette bounced around, living with different people. She eventually moved back home and enrolled at El Camino Junior College. It wasn't long before Lyn and her father were fighting again. The two got into a fight over a definition of a word, and it was the last straw for Lynette; again, she hit the road. She went first to her boyfriend's house and finding him not there, went to Venice Beach, sat down on a bench, and cried. Who walked up then at that time but Charles Manson to sit down by her and offer solace. Impressed by Manson, she quickly decided to leave Los Angeles to travel with Charlie and Mary Brunner.

    Lynette had a special spot in the family; according to Paul Watkins, no one but Charlie was allowed to sleep with Lyn. At Spahn's Ranch, Fromme spent most of her time taking care of the 80 year-old blind owner, George Spahn. Lynette would make squeak-like noises when George ran his hands up her legs, so he dubbed her "Squeaky." Lynette was arrested with
    the family in both the Spahn and Barker Ranch raids. During the Tate-Labianca murder trial Lyn was frequently arrested. The charges ranged from contempt of court, loitering, trespassing on county property, to attempted murder, for a LSD lanced hamburger given to Barbara Hoyt in Hawaii.

    After Manson was convicted, Squeaky moved to San Francisco to be closer to San Quentin. She maintained contact with defense attorney Paul Fitzgerald, and family members in and out of jail. However, prison officials were uncomfortable about her and wouldn't permit her to see Charlie. When Lyn wasn't petitioning to see Manson, she began writing a book about the family.

    In September of 1972, Lynette was arrested in connection with the murders of James and Reni Willet. Authorities soon found she wasn't involved with the murders, however they were reluctant to let her go. Finally on January 2nd 1973, all charges against Lyn were dropped, and she was released the following day. On her release Lynette was immediately arrested by LAPD. She had been accused of robbing a 7-11 convenience store in October of 1972. At the trial Lyn's accuser, a 17 year-old 7-11 employee, admitted that the robber didn't have the "X" scar on her forehead. Once again the charges weren't dropped until another woman was arrested and confessed to the crime. Freedom was bittersweet for Lyn, the Family was falling apart. Mary, Gypsy, Katie, Leslie, and Sadie all wanted nothing to do with Manson.

    Later that year, Lynette moved to Sacramento with Sandra Good. The reason for the move was once again to be closer to Manson; Charlie had been moved from San Quentin to Folsom Prison. While walking in a park Fromme befriended a 64 year-old man named Harold "Manny" Boro. According to Boro's daughter-in-law, the two were lovers.

    In Sacramento, Lyn and Sandy became more preoccupied with saving the environment. It was around this time that Charlie started to talk about the Order of the Rainbow, his own religion in which Lyn and Sandy would be nuns of. Each of the Manson girls was given a color; Lynette was dubbed "Red" and was given the duty of saving the Redwoods. Their Lifestyles would be very different compared to the Spahn's Ranch days. The girls weren't allowed to smoke, have sex, or watch "movies with violence that sets thoughts to death and confusion."

    From their P Street apartment, Lyn and Sandy started the International People's Court of Retribution; a fictitious terrorist group that would assassinate executives and CEO's of companies that polluted the earth. The two sent out hundreds of threatening letters that claimed that there were thousands of members of the terrorist group just waiting to kill. While trying to get the local news to report the damage being done to the Redwoods from logging, Lyn was informed that the President of the United States was coming to town. On September 5, 1975, Lynette headed down to Capital Park with a loaded Colt .45 automatic pistol (borrowed from Manny Boro) strapped to her leg. When President Gerald Ford came walking down the path, Lynette pulled out her gun. Immediately Secret Service Agents wrestled Lyn to the ground, and the President escaped untouched.

    At her trial, Lynette followed Charlie's example and chose to represent herself. However, her presence in the courtroom was short lived. When Lyn lectured about the Redwoods and her other environmental concerns, Judge Thomas McBride instructed Lyn to


    stick to things relevant to her case. As Lyn continued to talk about whales and pollution, McBride had her removed from the courtroom. Squeaky was returned to her jail cell, where she spent most of the trial, watching from closed circuit television. Later on in the case, and nearly costing a mistrial, it was discovered that U.S. Attorney Dwayne Keyes had failed to turn over some exculpatory evidence. In late November of 1975, a jury convicted Lynette of Attempted Assassination of the President of the United States of America. Upon sentencing, an angry Lynette threw an apple at Dwayne Keyes' head, afterwhich Squeaky was sentenced to Life.

    Squeaky was sent away to the Alderson Federal Corrections Institute in West Virginia. She was eventually reconnected with fellow family member Sandy Good, after she was transferred to a new prison in Pleasanton, California, where Good was serving time for sending threatening letters. In March of 1979, Lynette attacked a Croatian Nationalist named Julienne Busic, imprisoned from her connection in a 1976 airline hijacking. Squeaky hit Busic in the head with the claw end of a hammer, got 15 months added to her sentence, and was sent back to Alderson. On December 23, 1987, Lyn got word that Charlie was dying of cancer, and escaped from Alderson. She was picked up 2 days later having traveled only a few miles. Squeaky then bounced around the prison system: from Lexington, Kentucky, to Marianna, Florida, and finally to the Federal Medical Center Carswell, near Fort Worth, Texas where she remains today. Her scheduled release date is September 5, 2005.

    Susan Atkins (aka Sadie Mae Glutz)

    Susan Denise Atkins was born in California on May 5, 1948. Her mother was afflicted with cancer and died when Susan was still in her teens. Constantly fighting with her alcoholic father, Susan decided to hit the road; dropping out of school and moving to San Francisco. She got a job as a telemarketer for a company that sold magazine subscriptions, rented a room and soon found herself poor, lonely, and depressed. She eventually quit her telemarketing job and started waiting tables at a local coffee shop. It was there that she met a couple of escaped convicts and decided to hit the road with them. The three committed several armed robberies up the west coast, and were eventually caught in Oregon. The men were sent to prison, and Susan got probation after she served three months in jail. When she was released, she came back to San Francisco and found work as a topless dancer. It was there she danced in a show called the Witches' Sabbath organized by Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey.

    After quitting her job, Susan met Charles Manson. Her experiences with him had a profound effect on her, and she decided to leave San Francisco to travel with the family to Los Angeles. When the family got fake ID's, Manson gave her the name Sadie Glutz. Tex Watson would later say, Susan was one of Charlie's biggest cheerleaders. Sadie seemed to enjoy going on the "Creepy Crawler" missions; dressed in black, family members would sneak into random houses at night, while people were sleeping. Inside they would creep around, rearrange things as well as steal.

    Sadie's demands for attention often put her in conflicts with Manson. She was reportedly kicked out of the family for a while, and was often blamed for getting the family contracted with the clap. Susan was among the family members who lived in Mendocino California for a short period of time. The group was arrested after giving LSD to a group of local kids, and at their trial, they were nicknamed the "Witches of Mendocino". In October of 1968, Sadie gave birth to a baby boy, which she named Zezozecee Zadfrack. After the birth of Zadfrack, Atkins spent time recovering at the Fountain Of The World, a nearby religious retreat.

    In 1969, Susan was present at both the Hinman and Tate murders. Susan, Mary Brunner, and Bobby Beausoleil, took turns smothering Gary Hinman with a pillow after Beausoleil had stabbed him twice. Weeks later, Atkins took part in the Cielo Drive murders, she stabbed Wojciech Frykowski in the legs about 4 times, and helped Charles "Tex" Watson kill Sharon Tate. On the way out of the house, she wrote "PIG" on the front door, in Tate's blood. When the family was rounded up in Death Valley, Kitty Lutesinger implicated Susan in the Hinman murder. While in jail, Susan bragged about the Tate murders to her cellmates, who later told police, and 6 family members, including Atkins, were indicted on the Tate-Labianca murders.

    In December, Susan went before a Los Angeles Grand Jury and told all. In the beginning, she was going to be the prosecution's star witness, hoping to avoid the death penalty. But before the trial started, Susan took back everything she told the Grand Jury and renewed her loyalty to Manson. After a nine-month trial, Susan was convicted of seven counts of first degree murder and one count conspiracy to commit murder. In March of 1971, she and her co-defendants were sentenced to death.

    Susan was sent off to the California Institute for Women, where both Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel shunned her for snitching on the family. Meanwhile, a doctor adopted Susan's son Zezozecee Zadfrack, whose name was changed to Paul. In the mid 70's, family member Bruce Davis turned Susan on to Jesus. Atkins claimed that Jesus came into her cell, and she became born-again. In 1977, the year before her first parole hearing, Susan wrote an autobiography with Bob Slosser called Child Of Satan, Child Of God. Since her incarceration in 1971, Susan has only received four minor write-ups.

    In 1981, she married a Texan named Donald Lee Laisure. She had corresponded with Laisure for years, but he had lied to her the whole time. Laisure, who had previously been married 35 times, claimed to be a millionaire, which he wasn't. When Susan found out, three months after their marriage, she filed for divorced. She married again in 1987, this time to a man named James W. Whitehouse (a law student fifteen years her junior).

    Throughout the years, Susan has kept herself busy with her own prison ministry as well as completing an Associates degree through correspondence courses. She was denied parole for the 10th time in December of 2000. Her next hearing will be held in 2004.

    Patricia Krenwinkel

    Patricia Dianne Krenwinkel was born on December 3, 1947 in Los Angeles, California. Her parents divorced when she was 17 years old. At the time, Pat stayed in California with her father - an insurance agent - while her mother moved to Alabama. After High School, Pat moved to Alabama to live with her mother and attend a Catholic college.
    She had taught Sunday school in the past, and had thought about becoming a nun. After only one semester, Pat had enough and dropped out. She moved back to California, where she moved in with her half-sister Charlene, and got a job as a processing clerk. In September of '67, she met Lynette Fromme, Mary Brunner, and Charles Manson on Manhattan Beach. After making love with Charlie, Patricia decided to go with him and the girls to San Francisco, leaving her car and final paycheck behind.

    With the family, Patricia exhibited a quiet but intense personality. She helped take care of the family's children, and was dedicated to Charlie. In the summer of 1968, she and Ella Bailey were hitchhiking in L.A. when Beach Boy drummer Dennis Wilson picked them up. Wilson invited them to stay at his Sunset Boulevard mansion, while he went to a recording studio. When he came back hours later, Charlie and the others were there, and so began the relationship between Wilson and the family. Later that same year, Krenwinkel was arrested for possession of Marijuana in Mendocino, after she and some other family girls gave LSD to some local youths.

    Patricia, who often went by the name Katie, was heavily involved with the infamous Tate-Labianca murders. At the Tate house, she wrestled and chased Abigail Folger, eventually pinning her down on the southwest side of the lawn, close to the split rail fence. There she stabbed Folger repeatedly. According to Patricia, Abigail pled for her to stop stabbing by saying, "I'm already dead."

    The following night Patricia joined the others at the Labianca home. It was there she helped Charles "Tex" Watson and Leslie Van Houten kill Rosemary Labianca. Although most reports state that Pat was the one that carved the word "WAR" in the stomach of Leno Labianca, Tex Watson claims he was the one who actually did it. However, it is agreed that Pat wrote "Death to Pigs", "Rise", and "Healter Skelter" in Leno's blood in various places inside the Labianca home.

    Patricia was arrested with the family in both the August 16, 1969 Spahn's Ranch and October 10, 1969 Barker Ranch raids. After the latter, her father Joseph Krenwinkel bailed her out of jail, and she went to go live with her mother in Alabama.

    Patricia was indicted on December 2, 1969, for seven counts of first degree murder and one count conspiracy to commit murder. She was arrested and extradited back to California where she would stand trial with Susan, Leslie, and Charlie. After a nine-month trial at the Hall of Justice, she was convicted of all counts and sentenced to death. She and the other women were sent to a brand new Death Row facility built especially for them at the California Institute for Women at Frontera (CIW). In 1972, the Supreme Court briefly abolished the death penalty and all death sentences were commuted to life imprisonment.

    Today, Patricia is living within the general population at CIW. She has a perfect prison record, not once has she received a write-up. Through correspondence classes she received a B.A. in Human Services form La Verne. She is active with many prison programs
    such as, Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, and one where she helps other prisoners learn how to read. Patricia writes both poetry and music, plays the guitar, and is very athletic; playing on a Volleyball team as well as giving dance lessons.

    Patricia Krenwinkel has been denied parole eleven times.

    Catherine Share

    Catherine Share was born in Paris, France on December 10, 1942. Her Hungarian father and German mother were both members of the French underground and committed suicide during the war. Catherine was put into an orphanage where she stayed until she was eight. She was adopted by an American couple (a blind psychologist and his wife) and moved to California. When Catherine was still in high school, her adopted mother was afflicted by cancer and took her own life. Catherine stayed and took care of her adopted father until he remarried. After graduating from Hollywood High School, she went to college, stayed there for three years, got married, and shortly after, divorced. Like her father, Catherine was a Violin virtuoso and had a beautiful singing voice. She spent the next few years drifting around California, occasionally scoring acting roles.

    On the set of a soft porn entitled Ramrodder, Catherine met a young musician named Bobby Beausoleil. She began living with him and his wife Gail, traveling with the couple for about 8 months before deciding to go live with Charlie and the family (whom she met through Bobby) at Spahn's Movie Ranch. Gypsy, as she became known in the family, was the oldest female member, and was very much in-love with Charlie. She recruited new members, including girls like Linda Kasabian and Leslie Van Houten.

    Gypsy was arrested in both the August 16, 1969 Spahn's Ranch and October 10, 1969 Barker Ranch raids. During police questioning, she didn't give any information about the murders, and was eventually released. During the trials, Gypsy joined the other girls in vigil on the corner of Temple and Broadway. She visited Linda Kasabian and encouraged her to lie about her whereabouts on the night of the Tate murders. She also helped convince Barbara Hoyt to go with Ruth Ann Morehouse to Hawaii as opposed to testifying against the family. On January 5, 1971, Gypsy gave birth to a baby boy, which she named Phoenix.

    During the penalty phase of the Tate/Labianca murder trial, Gypsy testified that the murders were Linda Kasabian's idea, and that Linda, Sadie, and Leslie had committed the Hinman murder. This all happened, according to her testimony, because Linda was in love with Bobby Beausoleil, and she wanted to commit copycat killings so the police would think Beausoleil was innocent.

    On August 21, 1971, Catherine was involved in a shootout with the LAPD. It started when Gypsy, Mary Brunner, Charles Lovett, Lawrence Bailey, Kenneth Como, and Dennis Rice were robbing a Western Surplus store in Hawthorne. The group had stolen close to 150 guns, when LAPD responded to a silent alarm. Gypsy fired the first shot, and by the end of the shootout, had been wounded three times. The family members involved were planning to hijack a 747 jumbo jet, in which, they would kill one passenger every hour until Charlie and company were released from prison. Fortunately no one was seriously wounded, but the stunt landed Gypsy in prison for 5 years.

    She was sent to the California Institute for Women in Frontera, where the other Manson girls were serving their sentences. While there, Gypsy and Mary Brunner,together with a group of Aryan Brotherhood members, conspired to break out of the prison using a pair of wire cutters, but were caught at the last minute. Gypsy had fell in love with Kenneth Como (also imprisoned for the Hawthorne shootout) but stopped talking to him after Manson told her not to. Como was in love with Gypsy, and obviously angered with Manson, so he assaulted Charlie in the prison yard. Soon after, Como convinced Gypsy to forget about Charlie, and the two got married; Gypsy eventually divorced Como in 1981.

    In the late '70's, early 80's, Gypsy was indicted and convicted on a range of Federal charges for her part in a credit card scam. She served a number of years, and somewhere down the line became a born-again Christian. She married a man named Patrick Shannahan, a prisoner turned informant. Because of this, it has been rumored
    that she was put into the Witness Protection Program. According to Vincent Bugliosi's 1994 Helter Skelter update, Gypsy now lives a clean life and is writing a book about her wild past.

    Conclusion

    Though these are only a few examples of the backgrounds of the hundred plus members of "the Manson Family" they are typical...as in most of the members came from families that failed to either provide the emotional and or physical support (many times both) to insure that that the child had every chance to grow up to a healthy adult hood. The losses in every way incurred by our peoples' failure to do that are incalculable. Multiply the numbers of people shown here by the tens of millions of youth experiencing family strife due to dysfunctionalism (albeit generally not quite as spectacular, but disastrous all the same for those experiencing them) and you have a picture of what goes on yearly in our socieities. The moral of "the Manson family" is that should you see a child being raised by parents who either can't or won't provide the emotional (ie unconditional love with gentle, but firm guidance when necessary) and or physical support that child needs to reach a healthy adult hood, do what you have to to place that child in a healthy home where it will be provided with those minimal requirements; if you yourself are unable to provide those minimally required things mentioned the same applies, do not have children and or do not keep them should you already have them (till you get yourself together). The life that you save besides that child's, and as the Manson Family story illustrates, might ultimately be your own.

    http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...on/manson.html

    http://www.charliemanson.com/home.htm

    http://www.squeakyfromme.org/

    http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/manson.html

    http://www.rickross.com/groups/manson.html
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    Turman found a copy of The Graduate, and thought highly enough of the story that he made a movie he considered to be 90-percent faithful to the book.

    But Turman and director Mike Nichols made one key adaptation, changing the Braddocks from WASP-y blonde characters into a dark-haired, more ethnic-looking family.

    From NPR's Present at the Creation

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    Post Re: It's All In The Family

    Not to ruin your post Gladstone, but "All in the Family" was a good tv show. Many Jews were behind the scenes of it, but it also made fun of absolutely everyone. Rob Reiner AKA Meathead a Jew plays a Pole. That show was a classic.
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    Post Re: It's All In The Family

    All In The Family was a very funny show, no question. Quite popular with many in its time.
    Turman found a copy of The Graduate, and thought highly enough of the story that he made a movie he considered to be 90-percent faithful to the book.

    But Turman and director Mike Nichols made one key adaptation, changing the Braddocks from WASP-y blonde characters into a dark-haired, more ethnic-looking family.

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