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    Defilement of Heathen Holy Symbol?

    Interesting take on the Israelis' new choice for their red cross, a "defilement" of a runic symbol? : :

    http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.phpid=7055

    I am Heathen but I don't think I would make such a conclusion myself about it. :
    "Yet Thomas Jefferson’s interest in the Saxon heritage went far beyond matters of philology. He held that the forward movement of British settlement in North America was a continuation of the original migration of Hengist and Horsa. It was all part of the vigorous expansion of a superior group of people. Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that the form of government being adopted in the emerging United States represented a restoration of the sublime Anglo-Saxon principles..."

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    Yippie!!! Ingwaz for all Jews!

    :

    :speechles
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    It's a broken link for me..
    Lík börn leika best.

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    That's the correct one:

    http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7055

    I believe he solely forgot one question mark.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    It's a square. You can't really say that someone was intentionally using this symbol to defile a heathen rune if the symbol in question is one of the most common symbols used by man. If they were using Othala or Algiz, or something recognizable and obviously heathen, one would be justified in being upset. Here, we just see people blatantly and falsely trying to present Israel as having an anti-European agenda. There are far more viable reasons to believe in such a thing, but the viability is perceptually diluted by this nonsense. "Israel has an anti-European agenda." "Why? Because they used a square for their 'Red Cross?' Silly White Nationalist, I'm not going to listen to you." When an ideologue searches for something to support his ideology, and begins touting the preposterous as evidence, the whole ideology appears preposterous.
    Out of life's school of war...

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    Thanks, Sig.
    I think I have to puke now. This is ridiculous! But even more horrible than the Israeli Red Cross taking Ingwaz as their new symbol is the news that they deny with their statement that Ingwaz is "completely free from any kind of religion" more than thousand years of European culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blutwölfin
    Thanks, Sig.
    I think I have to puke now. This is ridiculous! But even more horrible than the Israeli Red Cross taking Ingwaz as their new symbol is the news that they deny with their statement that Ingwaz is "completely free from any kind of religion" more than thousand years of European culture.
    The world's hypocritical sometimes isnt it :icon1:

    Well, just another damage to our faith. After we are labelled as a "White Supremacist" religion in Nip/Tuck, and after the Jew York Times have said that we "seek to use violence to smite the mud races" (or something along the lines...), well...
    And at the same time they preach being nice to Muslims and Jews. I cannot understand this! :
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Much ado about nothing is my opinion, a silly article. Israel is a problem for sure, but that's really stretching things. Most Israelis very likely have scarcely any knowledge of the runes. There's plenty of reason to take issue against the Zionists without resorting to such nonsense.
    I am Heathen and quite anti-zionist but such is inane. :

    And no, a jew ain't 'nordic'. Jews are pretty much a hybridized mix of armenoid and semitic sub-racial types with some Euro admixture thrown in through marrying christians I guess.
    "Yet Thomas Jefferson’s interest in the Saxon heritage went far beyond matters of philology. He held that the forward movement of British settlement in North America was a continuation of the original migration of Hengist and Horsa. It was all part of the vigorous expansion of a superior group of people. Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that the form of government being adopted in the emerging United States represented a restoration of the sublime Anglo-Saxon principles..."

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    I used to have three rune books (I've only got one left), one of which was by Stephen Flowers and had a velvet bag with rune tablets (I don't have it anymore, while I forgot the other one that even covered Northumbrian runes). Other than this thread, referencing VNN, I have never come across any idea that the symbol in question is in any way holy.

    Also, has it not been pointed out by many people how the use of the Swastika by so-called "Germanicists" in Nazi Germany has been deemed "cultural appropriation" from the Subcontinent, considering their obsession with the Indo-Aryans? Furthermore, it's telling when the same people who believe in using the Swastika, are the same ones who claim Greco-Roman society was "Nordic". Do we need to find validation from others, by immersing ourselves in their heritage, then adopting it and acting as if the actual inheritors of their ancestral legacy, have no right to it? I don't look down on other people while stealing their heritage. That's uncalled for and dishonest. It's also self-loathing. Himmler wanted to glorify actual Germanic heritage and Hitler scoffed at him, preferring to look in Mussolini's direction. Granted, Himmler was more influenced by Herr List than legit Germanic culture, but it was in the right direction. If only both Hitler and Himmler could have stomached Germanic roots without substitutes. Speer should have left a Germanic legacy, but only regurgitated Greco-Romanisms. Only the SS use of one rune doubled up, really made any impression, so boohoo to all the fake reverence. What a disappointment.

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    Ingwaz ... Never heard of ...

    Needed to search ...

    http://www.lokis-mythologie.de/INGWAZ.html


    The Hamburg Sports Football Club has such an emblem :

    From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_SV

    The Constellation 'Libra' is shaped as such an almost same-angled rhombus :

    From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libra_(constellation) .

    This could have been either Widar as strongest after Thor beneath Hercules,
    and Wid for White at the beginning of Winter;
    or since Thor is Gemini and after Cancer follows,
    it might be Forseti with 'Seth' from the Old Testament the only name I know, that has some resemblance.
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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