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    Question Do Heathens/Pagans Believe in the Literal Existence of the Gods?

    I have a question concerning your various gods and how you worship them. Do you actually believe that when it thunders Thor is angry? Say if you wanted to become pregnant or have children, would you pray to a fertility goddess? I wondering if you believed in the ideals of the gods rather than the literal powers of them, such as control over rain, thunder, war, etc.? I'll excuse my ignorance in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrun Christianson
    I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I feel pretty confident in writing that many people like me, who are basically agnostic but have a cultural appreciation for the Myths and Lores, see them as fables - fictional stories, born of authentic but less fantastic circumstances, meant to teach a lesson or moral.
    That mentality is very similar to mine, I have a deep appreciation of legends etc. I wondered if people actually believed in them literally, like in the past.

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    To some it up and put it simply, with heathenism it is more about ancestor worship than the worship of "gods". Through following your folk's ancient religion you are therefore worshipping your ancestors and your people! So it is quite deeper then just enjoying cultural folk tales. But to everyone it is something else as well, spirituality is something that is always molded to the individual.
    I envision a world where people dawning long white robes and elaborate headdresses run rampant down the streets, waving their arms in the air while screaming "we've gone mad, we've gone mad", like defrocked monks breaking the silence of ages past.

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    I can't say that I literally believe in the goddesses, gods and other beings of immortal fiber....although I can't say that I don't believe in them either. For me, Heathendom is as Sigrun said, an appreciation of the old lores, myths, and ways and also as Vanessa said, a worship of and connection with the Ancestors and our unbroken chain that binds us. To me, heathendom is our organic mythos and spirituality that was not born in some far of desert in the East but instead in the fields and woods in our native clime and land. It is inside us at an organic level and is remembered in our conscious and unconscious genetically. It is imprinted on our folk soul and 1500-2000 years of Christian brainwashing (sorry Milesian!) can't erase what has been inside us for 10,000 years of more.

    While I may not necessarily believe in a red-bearded Thunor wielding his hammer in the sky every time I hear thunder, I do fully see and hear and taste and feel the forces and powers of Nature....be it thunder, rain, snow, mountians, rivers, plains, or any other natural element. And, the goddesses and gods are sort of personifications of these forces.

    From our house, we have a wide open view to the east overlooking a river valley and a mountain....the sun rises right over the mountain and every morning I am greeted by Eoster and I thank her for her visit.....
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    I am closest with Vanessa's explaination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanessa
    To some it up and put it simply, with heathenism it is more about ancestor worship than the worship of "gods".

    The movie "Gladiators" had a touch of that. Maximus had the figurines of his parents which he carried with him and would on occasion take out and "commune" with. He had a small altar (designed after a temple) that he would place the figurines in when he would do this. Lit candles would be present.

    "Gladiators" is a very fine and well done film. Though the Senate in reality did not regain its power as the script indicated, the film does give one a taste of the "idea", (the glory, the beauty, and yes, the brutality), that was Rome and her people.

    Speaking of very fine, Commodus's sister as portrayed certainly was!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premisyl
    I have a question concerning your various gods and how you worship them. Do you actually believe that when it thunders Thorburn is angry? Say if you wanted to become pregnant or have children, would you pray to a fertility goddess? I wondering if you believed in the ideals of the gods rather than the literal powers of them, such as control over rain, thunder, war, etc.? I'll excuse my ignorance in advance.
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    I believe by myself that the Idea of "one Potential" the " Word at the
    Begining " ... is right. This would mean the Idea of one God is not
    wrong, but the different Aspects of God can be better worshipped
    as different Personalitys.

    Those Personalitys are resembeling the Human Archetyps ( Warrior:
    Tyr - Mars ... ,Sexuality - Mother :Freya - Maria... ,Mage - Leader : Odin -
    Zeus - Jupiter , and so on ).

    Those Archetyps differ betwen different Races and resemble the
    cultural, Natural and Genetic Background of the People. Because
    God is in his the Creation you can of course see Parts of his
    Personalitys in each Natural Thing.

    Would you Pray to a fertility Godess ???

    Perhaps i would Drink, offer for her,
    call her Name, do some erotic Painting,
    or simply have SXX with my Girlfriend.
    Everything that collabortes with the
    Subject would be fine.

    If you drink to Freya for example you honor
    the Things( in you ) she stands for .

    Best regards

    your Utgard-Loki

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utgard-Loki
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    Those Personalitys are resembeling the Human Archetyps ( Warrior:
    Tyr - Mars ... ,Sexuality - Mother :Freya - Maria... ,Mage - Leader : Odin -
    Zeus - Jupiter , and so on ).

    Those Archetyps differ betwen different Races and resemble the
    cultural, Natural and Genetic Background of the People. Because
    God is in his the Creation you can of course see Parts of his
    Personalitys in each Natural Thing.
    I have though noticed that before too, that in many multi god religions, if one combined the characteristics of the gods, the result of this would result in the creation of a "supreme God" that encompasses the qualities of the many lesser gods.

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    Think about ancestor "worship": do you want 100 years or so later your descendants worshipping you?

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