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    I dont agree with Dienekes on all things (who does agree with anybody about everything?) and had my own disputes with him if its about certain theories, but on the other hand he is definitely a reasonable individual and most of his genetic informations are from my point of view at least reliable.

    There is a dispute going on between this "two Titans", you should never underestimate personal feelings and differences. Furthermore if its about sources, I prefer Dienekes before white-history honestly, not because I dont think that many things on white history are true, there are good things written there and some right ideas, but still some things are too ideologically motivated. Arthur Kemp just goes to far if its about certain things...

    Obviously there is polemics between these two personalities and sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Furthermore if its about sources, I prefer Dienekes...
    the sources are verifiable.

    it is the interpretations
    that i am not experienced enough
    to judge.

    the conclusions in arthur kemp's book seem obvious
    through direct observation and experience.

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    Dienekes has a huge axe to grind and I wouldn't take his word for the weather outside without double-checking. His average Greek face project and his insistence that "blond" means "brown" in Greece are but two examples of his double talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007
    Dienekes has a huge axe to grind and I wouldn't take his word for the weather outside without double-checking. His average Greek face project and his insistence that "blond" means "brown" in Greece are but two examples of his double talk.
    Not to mention he claims to be a Greek nationalist yet lives in California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    Introductory notes:

    The Pleistocene Epoch is part of the geologic timescale, usually dated as 1.8-1.6 million to 10,000 years before present.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene

    Stone Age--lithic (stone), paleo (upper), meso (middle), and neo (new)
    Upper Paleolithic Period (35,000-10,000 B.C.)
    Mesolithic Period in Europe (7,000-4,000 B.C.)
    Neolithic Period in Europe (4,000-1,500 B.C.)

    http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~hart205/Lectures/lecture2.htm

    Why «N» can not be Mongoloid?

    Siiri Rootsi on N3:





    Source:

    HUMAN Y-CHROMOSOMAL VARIATIONIN EUROPEAN POPULATIONS by SIIRI ROOTSI

    In other words, N3 appeared no later than 8000 BC in Eastern Europe. Evidently, that it appeared in the population carrying N3's ancestral marker – N, and that the population in question was Eastern European as well.

    If N and N3 are Mongoloid markers, then there must a Mongoloid, or at least Mongoloid-Europeoid/Europeoid-Mongoloid population associated with them.

    Incidentally, there was not a single Mongoloid in Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Eastern Europe.

    That's what a prominent Soviet anthropologist, T.I. Alekseeva writes about introduction of the Mongoloid element into Eastern Europe:





    Source:






    Available online (in Russian):

    http://www.elibrary.ru/books/alekseeva/030/010.htm#1

    So first (individual) Mongoloids appeared in (the northern part of) Eastern Europe no earlier than 4000 BC... at least 4000 years after appearance of N3 which thus had to appear in the purely Europeoid population... which necessarily carried "N".

    To be continued...
    It would be more creditable if it was from a non-russian source.

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    Not to mention he claims to be a Greek nationalist yet lives in California.
    Meds like it sunny=)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    It would be more creditable if it was from a non-russian source.
    Indeed.

    Besides, if this case Ross is referring to is the same I believe, those skulls were falsification in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    It would be more creditable if it was from a non-russian source.
    Really? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross
    Really? Why?
    We all know that the Occident has a monopoly on science, don't we, Northern Paladin? How dare you Russkies study your own history? *chews tobacco and spits it out*

    Ross, next time you want to discuss science, please quote Joe Sixpack or Josef Jedermann, 'cuz names like "Alekseeva" just don't cut it.
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

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    Fortunately, not all Russians are like Ross.

    I do believe reputable science comes from Russia - after all, Russia develops its own space programs, nuclear technology and sophisticated arms.

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