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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by nemo
    This is why this whole sterotyping of people from different parts of Europe are a joke, because whether you are from north or south of Europe no country or people are that homogeneous and regardless of where you come from.

    Whether from scandinavia to sicily their are some people in the population that have some mixture,

    Whether nordic,med or slav, lets get out of the 18th century and stop dreaming, their is no such thing as pure white.

    Kemp goes hard on Southern Italians in his book with exaggerations trying to assume that they are a mixed group, sure some of them are , just like their are mixed people in other groups, no country has all the population where some are not mixed, that is all 18th century nordcist propoganda.

    I'm an American of Roman/siicilian heritage ,and by the standards of who is white or not, well using those standards I am whither then kemp, I have blue eyes, fair skin, light brown hair and small features, my family are just like me.

    But the crap you read on these racial web sites the people are so ignorant that they just classify you according to where you came from, using sterotyping methods to come to their conclusions.

    If you want to know who is white in the whole European population, you have to see the person first, you don't come to those conclusions by what country they are from.
    haha touché...I think nordicists prefer half mongols with blue eyes over half meds who have dark pigmentation, its all about exterior appearance/pigmentation nowadays...automatically the germanic berbers have become mixed raced semites to some people

    in many ways the pressure of the arabs in southern europe has caused for seclusion of many towns and I would say more pure than most in the north who have peacefully mixed with asiatic settlements...again its all about what color eyes/hair they have

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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Razmig
    haha touché...I think nordicists prefer half mongols with blue eyes
    It is genetically impossible for anything more than a tiny fraction of individuals with 50% Mongoloid ancestry to have blue eyes.

    over half meds who have dark pigmentation, its all about exterior appearance/pigmentation nowadays...automatically the germanic berbers have become mixed raced semites to some people
    Berbers are not "Germanic". Indeed, they are mixed race, with approximately 8% sub-Saharan African ancestry, if I recall correctly.

    in many ways the pressure of the arabs in southern europe has caused for seclusion of many towns and I would say more pure than most in the north who have peacefully mixed with asiatic settlements...again its all about what color eyes/hair they have
    I think that Armenians are not accepted into white racialist groups as much for their morphology, which would stick out as utterly alien anywhere in Europe, as for their dark pigmentation.
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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Actually, I was wrong, Berbers appear to have approximately 4% Sub-Saharan African admixture (as measured by Y-chromosome and mtDNA analysis).

    Source

    In any case, they are in no way, shape or form "Germanic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33

    I think a lot of people criticising him haven't even read it entirely, I have. I don't understand why Nordicists are jumping in line to defend his work. The book makes Nordics look bad. Nordics are not pathetic Negroes who have to steal the accomplishments of Mediterranean and Egytian people.
    Exactly! Also, the selected photos of various caucasoid-looking nobles from Japan, and mongoloid-looking people. That was truly pathetic.

    MOTT is full of misconceptions and lies. This book is doing far more harm than good in the promotion of the white race.

    1. It's making anyone who's proud about their race to look foolish in the eyes of those who aren't so interested in the subject.

    2. It's teaching an entire generation of white people an easily disputable pseudo-history.

    3. It's creating gaps between Germans, Slavs and Mediterraneans.

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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Sub-Saharan admixture doesn't necessarily mean that it's recent. Brits have 1.8% Sub-Saharan DNA.

    There is no such thing as "hunnish" DNA.

    No ethnicity has ever been 100% homogenous.

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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Kemp
    Hmm, not the most flattering picture I have ever seen, but yes, I take after my mother, a Dutch coastal Borreby - although my father is a Keltic Nordic.

    That picture makes my hair much darker than what it is in real life. My hair now is actually dark brown. My hair was light-blond in my youth, as per this picture of me aged 3.


    Yes, I was personally under the impression that the picture was rendering your pigmentation inaccurately. I suppose that the Dinaric strain I saw is really a Keltic Nordic one. In any case, I believe that many individuals who disagree with your work, especially those of Southern European ancestry, will inadvertently classify you as something 'lower' than themeselves, in an effort to 'avenge' perceived insults against their racial purity. All these "Mestizo" and "Mixed with Negroid" 'classifications' are simply trolling, nothing more.

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    All these "Mestizo" and "Mixed with Negroid" 'classifications' are simply trolling, nothing more.
    I have to agree with you there Prodigal Son. In my earlier post I also replied about how ridiculous these "mixed with negroid" claims were. If a person is mixed even slightly with a negro it for the most part becomes VERY evident. Regarding Kemp...well considering Mr. Kemp does not have a flattened nose, flared nostrils (even slightly), angled skull or "wooly hair" or any other negro characteristics I think its safe to say the man has no negroid ancestry Also the "mestizo" claim is also a bit ridiculous. Judging from the picture given, as I mentioned in my first post, on first glance passing him on the street I'd take him for most likely Italian.

    Arthur, you mentioned that the picture posted here was not terribly "flattering". Could you perhaps provide us with a clearer picture? As well as I'd like to take the opportunity to make my comments on MotT here. Though many here claim to not agree with, or to have liked it, I must say I did and I found a lot of useful information in it. I am a highschool student and used some of the informatoin in March of the Titans for an essay I did last year and got a decent mark on it as well (90%).

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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal Son
    It is genetically impossible for anything more than a tiny fraction of individuals with 50% Mongoloid ancestry to have blue eyes.
    How do you explain the Ladogans?



    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal Son
    Berbers are not "Germanic". Indeed, they are mixed race, with approximately 8% sub-Saharan African ancestry, if I recall correctly.
    Vandals AKA Germanics



    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal Son
    I think that Armenians are not accepted into white racialist groups as much for their morphology, which would stick out as utterly alien anywhere in Europe, as for their dark pigmentation.
    Sure, most white racialist groups are idiots, I would know, I belonged to a supremacy group here in California, when I first moved here people thought turkey was next to germany...the education level was below around 10% and they considered Italians non whites, as well as Russians. White doesnt mean a thing, as for European? Sure Armenia isnt, as well as my lands have never been in europe (perhaps only Phyrgia), so are you saying that Greeks would stick out in "europe", by europe do you mean Germany? Or perhaps northern Russia? I think a Russian would just as well stick out in Scandinavia and France. In any case, I was not referring to Armenians, but to Southern Europeans.

    *EDIT* the meaning of berber does not apply to recent north Africans, all people change over time...proto-berbers im sure are not "germanic", or in your eyes (nordic), for some reason germanics are considered nords, when they did not come from the north
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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    Of course my classification of Kemp is totally biased. He doesn't look like a sleazy Israeli, that's going too far. He looks like an Albanian immigrant with poor hygiene.

    Sure, I'm a little mixed with people called Tatars and Bashkirs and Saami. I have posted a lot of pictures of myself and relatives, none of them are 'gooks' and I certainly am not. (I'm going to order the 'Ancestry by DNA' test today, BTW! ) But even so, I'm much more Nordic than Arthur Kemp.

    His contribution to the so-called movement is a collection of refuted, simplistic half-truths. His book is designed to be a feel-good read to Germanics, but has actually brought a point of unity between Meds and Slavs.

    Attila the Hun is described as a Turanid, not an Armenoid.
    Turanid on behalf of him being from Asia? That man looks nothing like a Turanid. Perhaps its the Italian image of an Attila? BTW I never said theres something wrong with having Eastern ancestry.


    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    I discussed with Mr. Kemp on one occassion on Stormfront regarding his book, specifically what is written about Slavs and Hungarians. I don't remember him replying to the information I posted.

    I think a lot of people criticising him haven't even read it entirely, I have. I don't understand why Nordicists are jumping in line to defend his work. The book makes Nordics look bad. Nordics are not pathetic Negroes who have to steal the accomplishments of Mediterranean and Egytian people.

    For general history books I prefer Outline of History 2 volumes by H.G. Wells (1920) and for specifically Eurasian history The Empire of the Steppe a History of Central Asia (1939) by Rene Grousset. These are old, solid books and not politically tainted.
    Ill have to agree with you there, stealing other peoples history is just wrong. I have never read the book, but from what your saying I'm assuming the guys another ass-talker.
    Last edited by Razmig; Tuesday, January 20th, 2004 at 06:56 PM.

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    Post Re: Classify Arthur Kemp

    Quote Originally Posted by Razmig
    How do you explain the Ladogans?
    1. Ladogans don't have blue-eyes, but rather gray or gray-mixed.

    2. Ladogans have much less than 50% Mongoloid ancestry.

    Sure, most white racialist groups are idiots, I would know, I belonged to a supremacy group here in California...
    Are you implying that you yourself are an idiot? What "supremacy group" did you belong to, if I may inquire?

    and they considered Italians non whites, as well as Russians.
    Quite odd that they would (allegedly) include Armenians but exclude Russians and Italians.

    White doesnt mean a thing, as for European? Sure Armenia isnt, as well as my lands have never been in europe (perhaps only Phyrgia), so are you saying that Greeks would stick out in "europe", by europe do you mean Germany?
    I never said that Greeks would stick out in Europe. I said that Armenoid Armenians would stick out anywhere in Europe (even Southern Europe), because Armenoid is not an indigenous phenotype in Europe. Some extreme Dinarics may begin to approximate Armenoid features, but they are nevertheless quite distinct from Armenoids.

    I think a Russian would just as well stick out in Scandinavia and France.
    Depends on the ethnic affiliation of the Russian in question (you seem to include Bashkirs, Tatars and Armenians living in Russia under the label "Russian"). Most Southwest Russians (mostly Alpine) would look quite at home in France. Most Northwest Russians (West Baltic/East Nordic) would not stick out anywhere in Scandinavia, at least not to the casual observer (someone well versed in physical anthropology may notice that they are somewhat more brachycephalic and higher-skulled).

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