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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigel
    In Britain mainstream pop stars aim their products in a certain way, in order to be successful. Anything not P.C. will never make it into the mainstream. Yes, they can be cynical and critical, but within set criteria.
    Any musicians who are outside of this category will find it virtually impossible to get recording contracts.
    They remain obscure and shunned, perhaps even prosecuted.
    I'm certainly aware of that -- all public figures must pat lip service to political correctness. But I'm certain that there are at least some musicians in the UK whose private views are quite different from what they say in interviews.

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    When will you people stop looking in the various accepted subcultures and mainstream media for something that is not there ? There is NO "hidden racialists" or any other such in what you see on the tv, hear on the radio or read in the paper or books stemming from the mainstream.
    More importantly than whether they are racialist or not: why should we care about celebrities at all? Such misplaced reverence is diseased in itself, even if all of them were outspoken racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch
    I'm certain that there are at least some musicians in the UK whose private views are quite different from what they say in interviews.
    Perhaps, but we'll never know, as they will never allow it to show in their work. They'd be finished if the media ever sniffed anything remotely racialist.
    Most leading pop stars are out to massage their own egos and make a pile of money and that's about the sum of it IMHO.
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    It may be possibly to learn more about Morrissey's views by looking at the views of Oscar Wilde. I am aware that Morrissey has a great deal of respect for Wilde and some fans go so far to call it an obsession. He does wear shirts with Wilde's photograph printed on them. And the writer is frequently the subject of Morrissey's songs. Consider the title of one of them: "Oscillate Wildly." The point is that if Oscar Wilde has nationalist/racialist tendencies, Morrissey is likely to as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch
    How ironic. Ten minutes after starting the thread, I found this.
    Many artists are aware of racial issues, but not "racists" or "nationalists."

    For example: Joseph Conrad, F. Scott Fitzgerald, William Faulkner, Ernest Hemingway, John Keats, F.W. von Goethe... the list goes on.

    For many, "racism" and "nationalism" are too abstracted or narrow for what they wish to do, which is describe the situation. Thus they may not be on board with any specific party, or may fear what a "Nazi-ish" party in their country would do, but may still be aware of differences in heritage.

    Problem with racist parties is that they recognize only race. Not internal strata of breeding, not environmental issues, not holistic issue of failure of modern time. IMHO.

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    The Killers' Brandon Flowers is 'not going to burn my Smiths CDs' over Morrissey's politics



    'I don’t think Marr should be held back because of Morrissey,' he said

    The Killers frontman Brandon Flowers has admitted he finds it “difficult” to separate Morrissey’s far right politics from his music with The Smiths.

    A lifelong fan of the band, Flowers performed a cover of “This Charming Man” as part of The Killers’ headline set at Glastonbury Festival in 2019, with The Smiths’ guitarist Johnny Marr joining him on the Pyramid Stage for the song.

    Speaking to The Sunday Times, the Las Vegas rocker admitted that while he didn’t support Morrissey’s controversial political views, he would find it hard to stop listening to the band altogether.

    “I don’t think Marr should be held back because of Morrissey, so I don’t regret [covering their song],” he said.

    “It is difficult to separate it from him, and I’m not going around playing the music in front of my kids, but pick a song! Pick “What She Said”. If “What She Said” came on the radio with my kids, I wouldn’t change it.”

    He continued: “It’s still an amazing song, so I’m not that serious, where I would change the station. I don’t agree with him, but I’m not going to burn my CDs by The Smiths or anything.”

    In recent years, Morrissey has politically aligned himself with the far right, in 2019 publicly supporting the anti-Islam party For Britain and saying that “everyone ultimately prefers their own race”.

    Flowers has previously claimed that Morrissey is “still a king”, despite his history of racism.

    Source: Independent
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    Morrissey is no different than any other bisexually repressed emo primadonna worried about the imams calling for him to be shoved off a rooftop.

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