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    Beauty: a visual or auditory experience which gives one pleasure.

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    It's something that living beings perceive in some sensory manifestations, it's objectively without any basis.

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    In Molly Bawn, 1878, there's the line "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I find this to be true. Something I might find beautiful people might find ridiculous or hideous. Who's to say what's beautiful or not and does their opinion matter? "Beauty is bought by judgment of the eye." So, is that the beauty of beauty?

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    Beauty is subjective.
    Nature made our genes in such a way that we find certain things beautiful
    to get attracted by them, because they are good for our species.
    Sometimes the reason why we find somthing beautfil is not obvious, but if you study it there's
    usually some biological sense behind it, sometimes a complex one.
    Simple example for other species : bee and flowers. Flies and shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    The question to be asked however is - can there be beauty in decay, or must beauty refer to something in its prime? I.e. Does it follow that because late spring/early summer is the time of blossom; or that because late summer/early autumn is the time of harvest, that they automatically hold more beauty than late autumn/early winter ... or could it be argued that there is a beauty in the falling of coloured leaves, and the increasingly longer nights because the decay takes place in a natural course - or would such instead be more of a romanticisation of the obscure, much like one can be attracted to a substantially older man or woman?
    I think when we use the phrase "a beauty in ..." we are speaking metaphorically again. We are a saying 'a kind of beauty', meaning something like beauty. When we see something in its prime, we don't say that it has "a beauty", but that it is beautiful.

    Of course, some people can find beauty in the most ugly things - but this is stretching metaphor too far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorm the Old View Post
    Beauty: a visual or auditory experience which gives one pleasure.
    But not all pleasurable visual/auditory experiences are beautiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Alpine View Post
    It's something that living beings perceive in some sensory manifestations, it's objectively without any basis.
    Pleasure is subjective - but beauty isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRose View Post
    In Molly Bawn, 1878, there's the line "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I find this to be true. Something I might find beautiful people might find ridiculous or hideous. Who's to say what's beautiful or not and does their opinion matter? "Beauty is bought by judgment of the eye." So, is that the beauty of beauty?
    I agree that beauty is sensuous, but there are things that are beautiful by definition and objectively so. There are others things which are beautiful only metaphorically - and there are things that are said to be beautiful perversely.
    Only the first is truly beautiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Beauty is subjective.
    Nature made our genes in such a way that we find certain things beautiful
    to get attracted by them, because they are good for our species.
    Sometimes the reason why we find somthing beautfil is not obvious, but if you study it there's
    usually some biological sense behind it, sometimes a complex one.
    Simple example for other species : bee and flowers.
    Attractiveness is not beauty.

    The real objective beauty can actually keep us at a distance as we are over-awed by it.
    Why are there beings at all, & why not rather nothing?
    [Leibniz/Heidegger]

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    I find it worthwhile mediating upon what it is in the mind of the degenerate Modernist artist: To him, beauty is something shameful, his art strives to be dispassionate, even ugly, in order to evoke admiration for not bothering about beauty.

    Therefore, art is that which makes me feel like a god. For me, to consider something beautiful, it has to appear rare, vibrant, brilliant, and dangerous.

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    Beauty is an objective reality which elevates one to the infinite. Three elements of beauty are integrity, proportion and clarity.
    “She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick.”
    ― Flannery O'Connor

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