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    "African Eve/Out of Africa" for Nordics or "Out of Asia"

    it was a hot, dusty sunset,
    all the corn was cribbed
    and their shocks were stacked to dry.

    the man that slept in the barn
    (with the plow-horse, two milch-cows,
    numerous chickens and uncountable cats)
    was washing-up at the creek.

    i asked my grandfather
    why the black man could not get clean.
    he explained that theron's skin was always that color
    and that "negroes come from africa".

    with the ratiocinative acuity of my three-year-old brain,
    i inferred that normal (in the mathematical sense) persons
    must come from some other place.

    i did not give it an other thought,
    until i read
    Most people still agree with the Leakian thesis that all human life began in Africa, and that we are thus all "Africans," originally (although some archaeologists are now proposing an Asian origin) in a book review.

    i immediately queried a specialist in white-history
    with whom i am privileged to correspond.
    he, initially, replied with

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/5/26
    and
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1006/jhev.2002.0601
    then he sent http://rafonda.com,
    all of which are accompanied by hundreds
    of peer-reviewed supportive references.

    not being a specialist in this field,
    i would appreciate your analysis
    and any other references.

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    i found this article about "regional continuity" interesting.

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    Whilst trying to educate myself on Cro-Magnons, I Googled this up:

    Neandertal-Cro-Magnon Hybrid?
    April 29, 1999 by Spencer P.M. Harrington

    Analysis of the skeletal remains of this four-year-old boy has revealed that he may be a Neandertal-Cro-Magnon hybrid.

    Analysis of the skeletal remains of a four-year-old child buried in a Portuguese rock-shelter 25,000 to 24,500 years ago has yielded startling evidence that early modern humans and Neandertals may have interbred. While the boy's prominent chin, tooth size, and pelvic measurements marked him as a Cro-Magnon, or fully modern human, his stocky body and short legs indicate Neandertal heritage, says Erik Trinkaus, a paleoanthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis. Interbreeding could answer the vexed question of the fate of the Neandertals, the last of whom disappeared from the Iberian Peninsula 28,000 years ago.

    Trinkaus was summoned to Portugal after archaeologists searching for rock art in the Lapedo Valley, 85 miles north of Lisbon, found the burial this past December. João Zilhão of the University of Lisbon, the excavation's director, described the skeleton's preservation as 'miraculous'--only the skull and right arm were badly broken. The boy is the first Palaeolithic burial ever excavated on the Iberian Peninsula, and among the oldest modern humans ever scientifically excavated.

    Trinkaus, who compared the boy's limb proportions with those of Neandertal skeletons, including some children, says that the body is the first definite evidence of a mixture between Neandertal and early humans. While full Neandertals are thought to have been extinct for 4,000 years before the boy was born, he appears to be a descendant of generations of Neandertal-Cro-Magnon hybrids. Neandertals belong to our species and contributed their genes to European ancestry, he says.

    © 1999 by the Archaeological Institute of America

    http://www.archaeology.org/online/news/neanderkid.html
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    I believe anthropoids first originated in Africa, and then migrated outwards in multiple successive waves. Later migrations encountered earlier anthropoid populations stemming from earlier waves, and either hybridized or replaced them, depending on the case. The anthropoid populations outside of Africa of course also hybridized and replaced one another as they all continued to evolve. In short, I think there is some truth in both the 'Out of Africa' and the multiregional hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    I believe anthropoids first originated in Africa, and then migrated outwards in multiple successive waves. Later migrations encountered earlier anthropoid populations stemming from earlier waves, and either hybridized or replaced them, depending on the case. The anthropoid populations outside of Africa of course also hybridized and replaced one another as they all continued to evolve. In short, I think there is some truth in both the 'Out of Africa' and the multiregional hypothesis.

    Millions of years ago, a group of chimps split in two in the Congo. The smarter apes among them realized what a horrible continent Africa is, traveled north, and eventually evolved into humans. The dumber apes chose to stay, indulged themselves in flinging their faeces at eachother, didn't evolve at all, and became known as negroes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigel
    Whilst trying to educate myself on Cro-Magnons, I Googled this up:

    Neandertal-Cro-Magnon Hybrid?
    April 29, 1999 by Spencer P.M. Harrington

    Analysis of the skeletal remains of this four-year-old boy has revealed that he may be a Neandertal-Cro-Magnon hybrid.

    Analysis of the skeletal remains of a four-year-old child buried in a Portuguese rock-shelter 25,000 to 24,500 years ago has yielded startling evidence that early modern humans and Neandertals may have interbred. While the boy's prominent chin, tooth size, and pelvic measurements marked him as a Cro-Magnon, or fully modern human, his stocky body and short legs indicate Neandertal heritage, says Erik Trinkaus, a paleoanthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis. Interbreeding could answer the vexed question of the fate of the Neandertals, the last of whom disappeared from the Iberian Peninsula 28,000 years ago.



    http://www.archaeology.org/online/news/neanderkid.html
    I have never doubted that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnids interbred. I believe that it did not happen to often as such, but I see no way around it. Although nowadays political correct soecity seems to decree it as such, it has always existed, especially in those areas where mixed populations existed in the first place.
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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