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    Ever Heard of African Nationalists?

    Where is the sense of nationality among african people? It seems like the only time they have any kind of patriot feelings towards their tribe, they get a civil war going, slaughtering down each other`s women and children.
    When all goes to hell, they abandon their country like locust and swarm to our part of the world.
    There are some exceptions, like Nobel price winner Wangari Maathai. What she does for her country is admirable.

    Asian people seem to have a more developed sense of nationality.

    Most of the worlds developed countries are donating huge amounts of money to the nations of Africa, most of this ends up in the pockets of some corrupt leader. When are we going to cut all commitments to that continent? The colonization guilt trip should be well over now. We have repaid them multiple times.

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    I spat out a gigantic rant related to this yesterday..

    I don't know where their sense of nationality is, perhaps it's at the bottom of the human evolutionary ladder with the rest of their culture? They have redeeming qualities, and people, as any group does.. but on the whole they are a seriously troubled continent, not just individual countries, struggling to keep up with the society we dropped on their heads with our colonialization.

    Best solution is for us to get the hell out of their country, get them out of ours, and encourage their development via their own people. Their people, their country, their business. When they are spilling over their borders in to our lands, it becomes our business and we have to do something to maintain security for our nations, our culture, and our blood.

    Genetic material is just as fragile as the sensitive feelings of all these bleeding heart liberals who don't give a damn about their own ancestry and heritage, but, unlike their feelings, impossible to mend once broken.

    The choice, in these matters, seems so blindingly obvious to me that I cannot begin to fathom why anyone, given the choice(and deprogrammed from the multicult) would choose anything but what I am espousing.

    Actually, before there was a multicult and a worldwide attack on nationalism, most people DID choose what I am espousing. That's how the world worked! Key word there is worked, because this world we live in now is bloody well broken.

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    In the 1970s a young Asian and a young African go to a Western
    university together. They study and become firm friends before returning to
    their home countries to take up careers in their respective governments.
    Twenty years later the African decides to visit his old friend and catches a
    plane. The Asian is delighted to see him and proudly shows off his fine house,
    swimming pool and two flashy cars in the drive. The African is impressed and
    congratulates him. The Asian smiles and points out of the window to a huge
    highway in the distance. 'Can you see that road project?' he asks. He rubs his
    hands and winks before saying: 'Ten percent'.

    The next year the Asian returns the visit. The African's house is twice as big
    as his. He has two pools and a fleet of cars and an army of servants. The
    Asian is amazed. 'But you have done better than me?' he cries. The African
    nods and points out of the window. The Asian looks and there is nothing but
    thick, unbroken African bush. The African winks and rubs his hands. '100
    percent,' he says.
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    An African Nationalist which I loved!!

    Marcus Garvey

    The Founder of Black Star Line and the "Back to Africa" Movement!



    Marcus Mosiah Garvey (August 17, 1887 - June 10, 1940) was a publisher, journalist, entrepreneur, crusader for black nationalism and founder of the UNIA-ACL. Garvey, is best remembered as a champion of the so-called "back-to-Africa" movement, which was interpreted as encouraging people of African ancestry to return to their ancestral homeland. Eventualy Garvey helped upwards of 20-30,000 American Blacks to return to their ancestral homeland in Africa. Actually, Garvey said what he wanted was for those of African ancestry to "redeem" Africa, and for the European colonial powers to leave Africa. In his own words, "I have no desire to take all black people back to Africa, there are blacks who are no good here and will likewise be no good there." Although Garvey was raised Methodist, he was a Roman Catholic. Born in Jamaica, he lived for years elsewhere in the Caribbean, then in New York City, and later, London where he died.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

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    Marcus Garvey was indeed the only respectable black leader I can think of, and very importantly, the only one whose vision for the future of negroes did not depend on handouts from Whites.

    He was definitely a gifted man, and apparently also a dignified and honest individual (extremely rare for a negro). Nevertheless he failed in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freja

    Most of the worlds developed countries are donating huge amounts of money to the nations of Africa, most of this ends up in the pockets of some corrupt leader. .
    Don't you believe it. These clowns are merely hired thugs. Most of the money from the exploitation of precious natural resources ends up in the pockets of transnational corporations. Aid for development is a mere fraction of what is extracted in return. Plus it comes from lowly taxpayers instead of the robber barons who are truly responsible for most of the mess generated down there. Africa was only ever decolonised politically never economically. Why do you think there has never been any serious attempts at exerting external political pressure on the dark continent? Because the profits keep rolling in nicely, thank you very much.

    But yes, WE are not responsible for any of it. Nor should we accept any responsibility. Although exploiting Western liberal guilt complexes is a nice way of camouflaging the continued looting and impoverishment of Africa.

    As for African immigrants and their myriad contributions to European civilisation.

    *Snigger*

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    Where is the sense of nationality among african people? It seems like the only time they have any kind of patriot feelings towards their tribe, they get a civil war going, slaughtering down each other`s women and children.
    When all goes to hell, they abandon their country like locust and swarm to our part of the world.
    I agree on your description. Maybee it's partially because the natural development of african nations was disrupted during the colonization.Shurely, if say Zululand had been allowed to live on its inhabitants would have felt more connection to their land. The present african borders and nations hasn't so good a base in the natural breeding areas of diffrent tribes and so on. They have been manufactured so that most of the african lands are multicult misery with several diffrent tribes forced togheter and we all know what that'll mean.

    So, maybee a lot of africans are nationalists but their loyalty is to their tribes and not the countries manufactured by the french and brittish, anyways the lack of loyalty to the present nations in africa is understandable.I would not go so far to excuse all of the africans shortcomings with white influence, the negroes are,supported by facts, a less clever people than others and had the africans been asians they would'nt have been so inferior now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuddorsped
    Don't you believe it. These clowns are merely hired thugs. Most of the money from the exploitation of precious natural resources ends up in the pockets of transnational corporations. Aid for development is a mere fraction of what is extracted in return. Plus it comes from lowly taxpayers instead of the robber barons who are truly responsible for most of the mess generated down there. Africa was only ever decolonised politically never economically. Why do you think there has never been any serious attempts at exerting external political pressure on the dark continent? Because the profits keep rolling in nicely, thank you very much.

    But yes, WE are not responsible for any of it. Nor should we accept any responsibility. Although exploiting Western liberal guilt complexes is a nice way of camouflaging the continued looting and impoverishment of Africa.

    As for African immigrants and their myriad contributions to European civilisation.

    *Snigger*


    Not to mention that the so-called development aid is just clever accounting.
    Sure the money is spent, and is spent in an account on helping africa.

    But look closer on the items, and you will see posts like "euro-africa consulting company" etc, basically retired politicans taking a few millions to write a raport on how to aid africa.
    Oh, sure sometimes they actually go to africa to drill a occasional well... wells that are poorly drilled so that the water is lost. Guess they now have to get their water from a multinational desalinationplant. How convenient..

    Or perhaps by shipping in free food, all so that the farmers cannot sell theirs, and thereby default their loans, and have to give their lands to the bank... a bank that just happens to be owned by some multinational that just happened to want that land for stripmining.
    All the while this bleeding heart dude, who is a boardmember of said multinational, is participatng in a "feed africa" campaign, and gets people to donate money for that foodshipment.
    Cute, huh?

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    A favourite trick employed by the "caring Western institutions" like the IMF and World Bank is the White Elephant project.

    It basically works as follows:
    The local stooge in Africa (or take your pick of 3d World countries) is approached to embark on a grand civil engineering project such as dambuilding, roadbuilding, industrial complexes and so on. Usually the country doesn't need it, cannot afford it and neither can they maintain and make proper use of the facilities.

    However, the go-ahead is usually obtained and the 3d World country is plunged into massive debt IMF / World Bank by taking out one of their extortionate loans, the Western Contractors are brought in and the construction phase begins.

    After numerous government officials have all made their cuts on the contracting bribes and the Western Engineering firms made their $$, the 3d World country now has a "White Elephant" they couldn't afford and cannot effectively use.

    Once again the 3d World people are exploited by Western Financier and Industrialist Crooks and their partners, the "leaders" of the 3d World countries.

    An interesting book on the topic is "Confessions of an Economic Hitman":

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/wanniski/wanniski53.html
    http://www.democracynow.org/article..../11/09/1526251

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    African nationalism is quite pointless, because most african countries were made up by different europeans countries who did not take in consideration the ethnicities of their territories. So you have a tribe split in 2 or 3 big countries where they have to live under the rule of tribe their ancestral enemies. Thats partly why they (seem) to kill each other every time they get "patriotic".

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