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    Frequency of Epicanthus in Some European Populations

    Estonians*: Finns*: Karelians*: Saami*: Vepses:* Finnish Swedes*: Russians**

    2.3% - 1.9% - 1.8% -7.0% - 1.8% - 1.8% - 0.14%

    If anyone has statistics on the other populations (e.g Hungarians and Germans), please post them here.

    *Source: К.Ю. Марк. Антропология Балто-Финских народов (Anthropology of the Balto-Finnish Peoples), Tallinn. 1975. p. 63-127

    **Source: Бунак, В. В. "Происхождение и Етническая История Русского Народа по Антропологическим Данным" (Origins and Ethnic History of the Russian People According to Anthropological Data), Moscow, 1956.

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    I wonder whether it is a statistical anomaly, or a trait that arose from pre-caucasoid or mongoloid ancestry.






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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    I wonder whether it is a statistical anomaly, or a trait that arose from pre-caucasoid or mongoloid ancestry.
    Its a trait because you have just to look at the different distribution in European populations.
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    Sventovit,

    What is your point this time?

    More importantly, what positive this thread would give to Skadi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louhi
    Sventovit,

    What is your point this time?

    More importantly, what positive this thread would give to Skadi?
    I see no point in suppressing facts, as they don't seem to have been maliciously presented. I wouldn't neccesarily classify someone with an epicanthus as un-Nordid, even less so as Mongoloid.






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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    I see no point in suppressing facts, as they don't seem to have been maliciously presented. I wouldn't neccesarily classify someone with an epicanthus as un-Nordid, even less so as Mongoloid.
    I have seen slanty eyes in people of many European nationalities, but I have never seen epicanthus in people of pure European origin. Last time saw an epicantic folds yesterday, and the owner of those folds was Chinese.

    Now, let's see what does epicanthic fold look like:


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    I have never seen epicanthic folds in any pureblooded european, and I still have yet to see genealogical explanation of how something like epicanthic folds makes it to phenotype.. but black hair and eyes does not? When last I looked, blonde and blue were recessive, and would likely give way to all three of these traits, if one were present.

    Also: I would love to see the results for ALL of northern europeans, including Sweden, Norway, Denmark, etc.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if 2% of any group had epicanthic folds, slight ones though they may be, as there is aboriginal/mongolid mixing to some degree in all countries where the two bloods share land.

    In my opinion, 1.9% means as much to the finnish genepool as a fart in a windstorm; though I'd still like to see the full report and their declaration/specification of what an epicanthic fold is for the purposes of this census.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louhi
    I have seen slanty eyes in people of many European nationalities, but I have never seen epicanthus in people of pure European origin. Last time saw an epicantic folds yesterday, and the owner of those folds was Chinese.
    Would you hold in especially high regard anything from Soviet Union? :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sventovit
    Finnish Swedes

    How are Finns who happen to live in Sweden supposed to be racially any different from those who live in Finland?

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