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    Post Re: Spanish and Portugese Racial Types

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordhammer
    I agree with you. There is a tendency to draw only distinctions between blacks and whites, or the 3 major types, while any semi-white mongrel or Asiatic is okay. This Pan-Aryan approach is not to my liking and I think preserving Northern European ancestry is important.
    Fortunately your country is only threatened by masses of Spanish people. Ho lucky you are. As for other European countries, immigrants aren't "swarthy" mediterraneans...

    Defending med or dinarics doesn't imply to accept any half-mongols or half-arabs in our ranks.
    " Je ne sais si Dieu a de la haine ou de l'amour pour les Anglais, mais ce que je sais, c'est qu'ils seront tous boutés hors de France, sauf ceux qui y périront..." Sainte Jeanne D'arc

    "I don't know whether God has hate or love towards the English, but what I do know is that all of them will be deportated out of France, excepted those who'll perish here." Saint Joan of Arc.


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    Post Re: Spanish and Portugese Racial Types

    Quote Originally Posted by almogàver
    I'm curious.. could you tell us which country do you come from?

    IMO, Spaniards have been a rather strange group as immigrants. We have never been keen on abandoning our homelands except to go to our colonies. True that the post-war harshness of the 40's, and later the international isolation by which democracies forced an impoverishment in Spain, as a consequence produced a mass of immigrants into Central Europe. But the vast majority of these immigrants only had one idea in mind, and that was to earn money outside and then return home. Homesickness was the illness of those Spaniards all along. I even know of a case where a Spanish woman married a German, and then "forced" him to go live in Spain, despite him not having any ties, need, or speaking Spanish. The only place where many remained is Southern France, and only because the Southern French are the closest you get to Spaniards, despite being a place "invaded" by the Frankish. Southern French (Occitans) are a mixture of Iberian, Basque and Celtic, with the later Roman settlers and a small Visigothic admixture, in a degree similar to Spaniards.

    In contrast, we are now seeing a significant number of Central and Northern Europeans seeking to settle in Spain. They are no longer of the type of tourists or old people retiring in Spain. The nice part of it is that they say they come because they like and favour our culture and habits. The ugly part is that after a while they show their nordishness and pretend to force it into our culture, showing little respect for a culture that's older and more complex than theirs.

    Because I lived for 6 years in a Central/Northern European country, and always respected it and never tried to infere, I find this most annoying.


    Note: I'll admit that the Celts are a people who integrate extremely well in Spain. Not just in the more Celtic areas of Spain, but also in the Mediterranean areas.

    Note: racism in Spain is not only growing among people against the moorish, black or mestizo americans, but also against groups of Eastern Europeans like Ukrainians, Russians, or Northern as the Balts.

    Note: in all fairness, there is another group which is being well accepted, the Poles.
    I think that some Americans have the idea that we are begging for their acceptance
    Here in Italy the most extremist groups in the Far Right hate Americans and consider them a non entity.
    In other words, according to those extremists, they might have 100% European blood but they are not Europeans anymore for cultural reasons.

    And yes, also in Italy some people don't like Russians and Eastern Europeans regardless their skin or hair colourActually the only foreign entity that is really accepted are the Spaniards, quite ironic coz i have heard that in your newspapers they criticize Italy and Italians quite often, expecially about football

    U can't please everybody

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Post Re: Spanish and Portugese Racial Types

    Quote Originally Posted by almogàver
    I simply think that it's a waste of time thinking of America as a White continent. The only chance they have to survive as whites in the future is doing as those Spaniards and Portuguese in South and Central America who live as groups distinctively separated from the mass of indians, mestizos and mulattoes. The funny thing is that the only groups in North America that I see able to do such a thing are those which have shown a cohesion through sticking to their European origins through ages, and those mainly Italians.
    Well we Italians are catholic and our immigrations is more recent than the Anglo-Saxon ones. This helped a lot in the process of saving some common bonds with the fatherland.. the Irish did the same in effect


    Quote Originally Posted by almogàver
    I read the normal papers on a daily basis, and I've never seen any critiques to Italy or the Italians, none that I remember. I don't read any paper related to football, so I don't really know. There are many Italian young people living in Spain, but they integrate fast and well. With Italians, integration is not an issue since much of the culture is similar, and the part that is not does not crash with local cultures, but is rather like an added value... as it has been for centuries.

    Oh.. yes, the one who critizes Italians a lot is me. But that's only when I meet a couple of friends from Rome and we start these friendly battles which are more fun than anything else
    yes i was teasing too anyway i think there are more Italians that moved in Spain than vice versa.
    The language thing is a big help, we can understand each other from the start just using Italian and Spanish..
    Your beaches are better!

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Post Re: Spanish and Portugese Racial Types

    How much jewish blood is still remaining in Iberia, specifically Portugal. I've heard that the Spainish expelled most at threat of death but the Portuguese had a soft spot for them and preferred them to just convert. Many jews were doctors, cartographers, scientists, and court advisors. They were then called conversos or "New Christians." Many descendants apparently still exist in Brazil, Central America, and the south east U.S. Some surnames like Silva, and Rosa might have have Jewish connections as with other plant or flower derived names. Is this just garbage or is there truth in this?

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