View Poll Results: What Group Do You Primarly Identify With?

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  • Nordish

    2 2.90%
  • Nordic

    7 10.14%
  • Germanic

    15 21.74%
  • Scandinavian

    4 5.80%
  • Celtic

    2 2.90%
  • Celto-Germanic

    12 17.39%
  • Slavic

    2 2.90%
  • White

    2 2.90%
  • Northern European

    7 10.14%
  • On Basis of Nationality (please specify)

    15 21.74%
  • Other (please specify)

    1 1.45%
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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    I personally reject the use of "white" to define the European people or at least people's of European ancestory in the case of colonials. But what must be kept in mind that in a loose sense it does have some validity, because obviously people of the of the native & local types found in Europe are indeed in a loose construct deemed as "white", but as for "white" as a purely a construct in the context you seem to use it as a broad means to accommodate not only Europid types but also the broader Caucasoid types of Northern Africa & the middle east in general based on ultra-tolerant pseudo-racial disillusions which incorporates a simplistic at best egalitarian based dogma.
    Diabloblanco is more accurate in his use of white as a purely racial definition than most people who call themselves White. In a taxonomic sense the word white has always meant Caucasoid, and theres no division seperating European and non-European Caucasoids.

    Truth is "white" has little worth, because it's definitions are poorly defined as a whole, but what cannot be disputed is what is "European". Agrippa summed it up well recently in some dialogue we expressed on the topic of what defines "Europeaness", this statement was more so on the biological or racial foundation that is implied as the basis of your arguement on "whiteness".
    Why cant the definition of European be disputed? Lots of British and Scandinavians deny being European, Prussian.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Diabloblanco is more accurate in his use of white as a purely racial definition than most people who call themselves White. In a taxonomic sense the word white has always meant Caucasoid, and theres no division seperating European and non-European Caucasoids.
    From a racial pespective not a lot all, but the basis of everything is not race alone, that's my point. Other elements come into play, the fact remains some Lebanese individual of strong Caucasiod influence may well be "white", but that's where there significance with any connection to Europe in the broader sense ends.
    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Why cant the definition of European be disputed? Lots of British and Scandinavians deny being European, Prussian.
    Good for them. My point is on the middle east & north africa not the British Isles or Scandanavia.
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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    From a racial pespective not a lot all, but the basis of everything is not race alone, that's my point. Other elements come into play, the fact remains some Lebanese individual of strong Caucasiod influence may well be "white", but that's where there significance with any connection to Europe in the broader sense ends.
    Prussian, ypu said that Diabloblanco's definition of white is "pseudo-racial disillusions". Although I dont agree with him that we should identify as being white with them, his use of the word white is at least more accurate than racialists in America usually use it.

    Good for them. My point is on the middle east & north africa not the British Isles or Scandanavia.
    But that doesnt answer my question, Prussian. Why cant the definition of Europe be questioned? However you define Europe, someone wont agree with you because its defined in different ways.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Prussian, ypu said that Diabloblanco's definition of white is "pseudo-racial disillusions". Although I dont agree with him that we should identify as being white with them, his use of the word white is at least more accurate than racialists in America usually use it.
    I don't give a damn if some middle eastern individual is caucasoid, it means exactly nothing to me. If you seem to noticed this all started when I commented that "white european" sounds like a pretty obvious fact, considering in a loose sense that European types are indeed "white", so I questioned why put "white" in front of it.

    They are pseudo-racial disillusions attempting to construct a whole political ideology namely "Pan-Aryan Nationalism" based on "whiteness".

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    But that doesnt answer my question, Prussian. Why cant the definition of Europe be questioned? However you define Europe, someone wont agree with you.
    Atlanto I well know the fact opinions differ, I personally recognise the fact that some British & Scandanavians reject identifying with being European, I am not questioning that, my point is the basis of "whiteness" has absolutely no validity when trying to make comparision between Europe & The Middle east/North Africa. They are alien people and no attempting to accommodate them changes that.
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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Prussian, ypu said that Diabloblanco's definition of white is "pseudo-racial disillusions". Although I dont agree with him that we should identify as being white with them, his use of the word white is at least more accurate than racialists in America usually use it.
    But that doesnt answer my question, Prussian. Why cant the definition of Europe be questioned? However you define Europe, someone wont agree with you because its defined in different ways.

    Atlanto-Med, i agree with you on DiabloBlanco; although i think that Europe is a too important concept to be questioned. I have no dubt about this. I can understand your dubts by the moment you're from british isles, therefore you have a very different perspective from mine (i'm continental in all sense) cause U.K has its own great tradition. Although this, remember that the continent is the origin of all us......................

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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    I don't give a damn if some middle eastern individual is caucasoid, it means exactly nothing to me. If you seem to noticed this all started when I commented that "white european" sounds like a pretty obvious fact, considering in a loose sense that European types are indeed "white", so I questioned why put "white" in front of it.

    They are pseudo-racial disillusions attempting to construct a whole political ideology namely "Pan-Aryan Nationalism" based on "whiteness".

    Atlanto I well know the fact opinions differ, I personally recognise the fact that some British & Scandanavians reject identifying with being European, I am not questioning that, my point is the basis of "whiteness" has absolutely no validity when trying to make comparision between Europe & The Middle east/North Africa. They are alien people and no attempting to accommodate them changes that.
    Prussian, my point is that you said Diabloblanco's definition of "White" is a pseudo-racial delusion, which you contrasted with Europe, which you said "what cannot be disputed". This is what you said which Im objecting to, you know Im agreeing with you about race.

    And were not talking about wether or not "they are alien people". Very different Europeans are alien people to each other, and neither of us agrees with Diabloblanco.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    Prussian, my point is that you said Diabloblanco's definition of "White" is a pseudo-racial delusion, which you contrasted with Europe, which you said "what cannot be disputed". This is what you said which Im objecting to, you know Im agreeing with you about race.
    Ah I get where you're coming from now, I meant in the sense of...

    Europeans (including the British & Scandanavians if you will)in the sense that I meant of not able to be disputed is in the sense there are apparent differences among "Europeans" but at the same time there is also a shared & collective sense culture & history at the same time, which I reject as do you any sense of collective belonging with the Caucausoid's of the Middle East & North Africa, despite some links, the value lays in the fact that we are unique from them, even at the same time unique within ourselves.

    A fine example is I can feel a sense of relative belonging to a Greek or a Irish friend for example, though there are differences there also at the same time enough similiarities to give form to this feeling of bond, in the comparision I give towards say a Syrian men, is that I feel nothing toward him whatsoever. The value lays in the fact that they have their significant belonging to the concept of Europe, enough similiarities are there to form a bond yet at the same time not distract from the uniqueness of each nation or ethnicity within Europe itself.

    Again I do acknowledge the fact that some British & Scandanavians do not identify with being European in the continental sense of Europe. That I believe is really up to individuals themselves, but I believe that the former mentioned non-european caucasoids are of little worth to include and that's the basis of my point.
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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    Ah I get where you're coming from now, I meant in the sense of...

    Europeans (including the British & Scandanavians if you will)in the sense that I meant of not able to be disputed is in the sense there are apparent differences among "Europeans" but at the same time there is also a shared & collective sense culture & history at the same time, which I reject as do you any sense of collective belonging with the Caucausoid's of the Middle East & North Africa, despite some links, the value lays in the fact that we are unique from them, even at the same time unique within ourselves.
    Prussian, apart from the south-east of Britain, the British dont have strong historical links with the mainland. We just have cultural affinities with some mainland nations, which are mostly Germanic.

    A fine example is I can feel a sense of relative belonging to a Greek or a Irish friend for example, though there are differences there also at the same time enough similiarities to give form to this feeling of bond, in the comparision I give towards say a Syrian men, is that I feel nothing toward him whatsoever. The value lays in the fact that they have their significant belonging to the concept of Europe, enough similiarities are there to form a bond yet at the same time not distract from the uniqueness of each nation or ethnicity within Europe itself.
    This is what I mean about Europe being meaningless, Prussian. I can see no reason to prefer a southern European over a Syrian, based on their cultural differences from the northern forests.

    Again I do acknowledge the fact that some British & Scandanavians do not identify with being European in the continental sense of Europe. That I believe is really up to individuals themselves, but I believe that the former mentioned non-european caucasoids are of little worth to include and that's the basis of my point.
    Id rather we werent included as Europeans, because MOST British dont want to be European. And in Europe, we only have kinship with nations that have a related heritage, the rest are entirely foreign.

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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    If I had to consider nationality as a basis for race I have chosen Celtic because I am a Catalan, descendent from those who force muslims to leave, my breed is traceable till the XIII century and I have a true côte d´arms. Catalan people share a lot of folk traditions with most of Celtic European population. In any case Valencia University genetic studies have shown that Catalan population in Mediterranean Spain share a distinctive genetic pattern which most visible traces are green or blue eyes and white skin, sometimes mixed with black or blonde-red hair.

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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by JOSEPH KONRAD
    If I had to consider nationality as a basis for race I have chosen Celtic because I am a Catalan, descendent from those who force muslims to leave, my breed is traceable till the XIII century and I have a true côte d´arms. Catalan people share a lot of folk traditions with most of Celtic European population. In any case Valencia University genetic studies have shown that Catalan population in Mediterranean Spain share a distinctive genetic pattern which most visible traces are green or blue eyes and white skin, sometimes mixed with black or blonde-red hair.
    In Italy and Spain, the northern regions have more historical ties with the north than the southern regions do, they are more Mediterranean. I dont know how strong Celtic influences are in northern Iberia, but in Italy the north has very strong cultural links with Germany.

    I would imagine that most of the intergrading into Spain would be accross Languedoc, therefore north of the Pyrenees. And the Languedoc was still very pre-Celtic when the Romans conquered the south of Gaul.

    I know that Catalonia is divided between France and Spain.

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