View Poll Results: What Group Do You Primarly Identify With?

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  • Nordish

    2 2.90%
  • Nordic

    7 10.14%
  • Germanic

    15 21.74%
  • Scandinavian

    4 5.80%
  • Celtic

    2 2.90%
  • Celto-Germanic

    12 17.39%
  • Slavic

    2 2.90%
  • White

    2 2.90%
  • Northern European

    7 10.14%
  • On Basis of Nationality (please specify)

    15 21.74%
  • Other (please specify)

    1 1.45%
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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis
    Really? Me too.

    And I'm still here.
    Heh! Cute.

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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Anglo Saxon.
    All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream at night, in the dusky recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity. But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams, with open eyes, to make it possible.

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    If I could be said to have a "homeland", "AmeriKwa" is it. I have never exactly "fitted in" here, but I would be even more of an outsider if I relocated anywhere else. I thusly identify myself as a "white American".

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    Post AW: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    German,English,Swedish,Italian (on basis of nationality)
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    Post AW: Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by invictus
    I chose White, but a White European is what I was born, and a White European I shall die.
    With a statement of this nature, I tend to ask the question, is there another type of European? Like even though "white" is a loosely used & often poorly defined (not to mention of very little academic value)term usually with colonial underlinings, I still cannot recall Europeans being of any other caste then the mentioned. It's a pretty exclusive term from a genetic sense.

    Just mentioning European from a genetic standpoint within itself gives the essential idea my friend. Though with culture & customs that can be an entirely different matter. But basically European it is.
    Last edited by Prussian; Wednesday, June 8th, 2005 at 01:22 PM.
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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    ..White European ...
    One of my friends at a local nightclub got into it with a Black fellow, and I thought they were going to have a fistfight.

    As the black fellow had several large mates flanking him, and my friend is an average size fellow, I got involved to make sure if it became a physical fight, it was at least fair odds.

    The fight ended up being about my friend refuting the Black's contention that he was 'English'. He did indeed have a strong British accent (Manchester ?).
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    I bring this up, as it, to my mind, means that unfortunately 'White European' may become an important distinction in the era where non-whites are settling the Old Country, then supplanting their original ethnic identity of Nigerian, Pakistani, whatever publicly to the European country they or their parents have settled in.

    The idea of Europe being 'settled' in this era, when it is already perfectly well settled with its own aboriginal sons and daughters seems to me a perversion, but perhaps I am just old fashioned. Nonetheless, while I may disagree with the general way 'white' is overused, and in this case with the fundamental reason 'white European' may become a necessary distinction in coming generations, it may indeed be a valid term from a certain perspective, and not simply a redundant adjective preceding 'European'.
    Last edited by Todesritter; Wednesday, June 8th, 2005 at 03:15 PM. Reason: punctuation fixing

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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    I voted for White American etc.... I would have said Germanic if it included Nordic, i.e. Proto-Germanic, or the normal sense of Germanic (i.e. not Germany as it is now), since I am primarily those. I do not associate with American, though I hope that it will be possible someday to do so. But I think many share with me that you can say you associate with White American, but not American in a nationality sense. Since born in America, with no shared social culture outside of what my parents had, I am naturally taken to groups already sharing such culture across a relatively wide and homogenous field, which is to say, Northwest Europe.

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    Post Re: What Group Do You Identify Yourself With?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    With a statement of this nature, I tend to ask the question, is there another type of European?
    You're absolutely right with your above post! There is no other kind of European but a white one. I didn't imply otherwise, rather I fell into a word trap as I was trying to accomodate the two poll choices. Still, I do sometimes find myself specifying just that: "white" european as opposed to "non-white." This is a sad side-effect of being surrounded by such poison destructive to our race, to the point where you develop the habit of qualifying that which never need be qualified in order to make the sheep understand your position. I should be more conscious around whom I do this from now on. Obviously it is not necessary here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todesritter
    The fight ended up being about my friend refuting the Black's contention that he was 'English'. He did indeed have a strong British accent (Manchester ?).
    While in Germany a while back, before I had began studying the language (I had just arrived and was waiting for my summer language course to begin), I asked this Black for directions. He looked at me with mild put-on indignation, the kind where you sort of shift from one leg to the other as you let your gaze briefly fly off to the side, then asks me, "What are you doing in Germany when you don't speak German?" I did not understand exactly what he had said at that moment but, as I reflected later, his demeanour and the words "Deutsch" and "Deutschland" made it obvious.

    The outsider being "more German than the Germans" to make himself feel at home. Imagine that.

    To this day the irony kills me.
    Last edited by invictus; Thursday, June 9th, 2005 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian
    With a statement of this nature, I tend to ask the question, is there another type of European? Like even though "white" is a loosely used & often poorly defined (not to mention of very little academic value)term usually with colonial underlinings, I still cannot recall Europeans being of any other caste then the mentioned. It's a pretty exclusive term from a genetic sense.

    Just mentioning European from a genetic standpoint within itself gives the essential idea my friend. Though with culture & customs that can be an entirely different matter. But basically European it is.
    Personally I oppose using contimental definitions as racial ones.It might be that all people aboriginal to Europe are White (Unless you want to count a few oddities like Gypsies as "aboriginal to Europe'), but not all Whites are aboriginal to Europe
    Even people like Arthur Kemp conceded that there are SOME Whites in places like Iran, they differ vastly with people such as myself over how many there are. In fact you can not only find Whites in these places, but small numbers of Nordics.
    Further complicating the picture is the fact that Euros of IE lineage have Aryan ancestors who did not entirely originate in Europe.
    The use of terms like "Asians" for race is even more silly as it can encompass everything from Mongoloids, to Dravidoids, to Whites in Siberia, Iran, ettc, not to mention Arabs as well.
    Now all of that IS NOT to say that "European" is not a totally valid CULTURAL term. Plainly nit is, and there is nothing wrong for a racialist to treasure Euro culture,as well as its subcultures yet acknowledge the existence of other Whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diabloblanco92
    Personally I oppose using contimental definitions as racial ones.It might be that all people aboriginal to Europe are White (Unless you want to count a few oddities like Gypsies as "aboriginal to Europe'), but not all Whites are aboriginal to Europe
    I personally reject the use of "white" to define the European people or at least people's of European ancestory in the case of colonials. But what must be kept in mind that in a loose sense it does have some validity, because obviously people of the of the native & local types found in Europe are indeed in a loose construct deemed as "white", but as for "white" as a purely a construct in the context you seem to use it as a broad means to accommodate not only Europid types but also the broader Caucasoid types of Northern Africa & the middle east in general based on ultra-tolerant pseudo-racial disillusions which incorporates a simplistic at best egalitarian based dogma.

    Truth is "white" has little worth, because it's definitions are poorly defined as a whole, but what cannot be disputed is what is "European". Agrippa summed it up well recently in some dialogue we expressed on the topic of what defines "Europeaness", this statement was more so on the biological or racial foundation that is implied as the basis of your arguement on "whiteness".
    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Biologically speaking every European should be pred. of "European race" = nordid, dalofaelid, dinarid, mediterranid, alpinid and osteuropid. Being of pred. of one or more of those types doesnt have to mean you are an European, but its rather exclusive, if you're not, you are none.
    Thus in the context I used "white" in definition with Invictus was on loosely based grounds signifying there is indeed some exclusiveness to the claim if you want to replace "European" with white.

    No Gypsies are not aboriginal in any sense of term to europe, they're imports from long ago, nothing more & nothing less.

    Basically breaking it down "white" truly does have little worth, keeping in mind racial or sub-racial composition is a piece of the puzzle, but it's not the only part of the puzzle, ethnicity, culture & so fourth play an essentail role in determining identity on both an individual or group basis. Of course there exceptions to most rules, yet there are principles that go unchanged in determining all this. "White" is a worthless & uneducated term at best, that especially used in either scientific or politically orientated topics
    Quote Originally Posted by diabloblanco92
    Even people like Arthur Kemp conceded that there are SOME Whites in places like Iran, they differ vastly with people such as myself over how many there are. In fact you can not only find Whites in these places, but small numbers of Nordics.
    Arthur Kemp is a pseudo-intellectual at best, manipulating history in a pathetic attempt to magnify himself. I personally don't give a damn if there are portions of European blood in Lebanon from the Crusades for example, it's lost to the greater extent of things and thus one one must move on. Attempting to make poorly defined validations on the acceptance of what is "white" is absolutely meaningless.
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