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    I always learnt to praise the death ceremony of the pyre, allthough whilst reading the sagas one reads only of burial mounds or death celebrations upon ship-out-to-sea. When did we adopt the burial? And why? We were burying the Fallen afore our contacts with other faiths, so I do not believe tis an influence from the christens and so forth.



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    I thought it so beautiful as Gestr (Oddleifsson) fell ill and died (Laxdęla K. 66) under the same Winter as Ósvķfr -with whom he shared a grave- and as his son Žórdur upheld his promise to bury his father at Helgafell, met the shores winds and a storm of such magnitude that no one could travel the frosen waters, but the day Gestrs body was to be set afree, had the storm ceased and all the ices moved seawards. The day after his burial the storm returned ices to the waters of Breišafjöršur and thereby preventing travells for the remainder of Winter.

    Twas an omen this chance to transport Gestrs body! But an omen of what? What did the ceasing of the Winter forces symbolise? Who was ahinde this?! Was Sifs son Ullr the omens bringer? We know that he hunts with Skaši upon Wintertimes and was away from Niflheim at the time of Ósvķfrs and Gestrs passing. What do my swornbretheren think on this?

    Praise be to Gestr(!) on this night for his cleverness in dream and destiny (especially with Gušrśn!) and to Ósvķfr(!) for bearing such fine kinsfolk to our seed, Ósvķfrssynir!!!



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    Aye!!!

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    p.s. har du glemt mine private meldinger?

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    Remember you the compensation bloodmission headed by Žorgils at Gušrśns behalf to kill Helgi? I know, I do not like to speak on this either as tis up-setting, but...how had Žorgils survived the blow dealt from Hśnbogi den Barske, who had charged before him and swung his axe splitting his spine in two and leaving a hole at the centre of Žorgils back? Afore the back wound, Žorgils had as well his foot severed off by Helgis wooden axe, and still was of ability to ride in return to Gušrśn, of course to learn of her trickery, but had survived the attack and most severe of wounds.

    :speechles

    We should have been there inside the sheiling to aide bróšir Helgi in making defence! Blood praise be to his strength and valour!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nįttfari
    Aye!!!

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    p.s. har du glemt mine private meldinger?
    Ikke ennå men jeg skal snart gjųre det.



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    Remember you the day afore Žorgils (Höllusonar) -accompanied by Halldór amoungest others- was to pay compensation to Helgis sons at alžingi, and he had hung his black hoodcloak at the wall to dry and it spoke such a mysterious, worrisome verse? (K. 67) The people wondered as to the cloaks wisdom. What meaning held the verse? Particularly the latter two lines. Allthough but four lines in length, I can not help but feel its weight in golds. And allthough I am certain twas bound in foresight to the viking deed made by Žórarinns son but a day later, I am not certain of its meaning ayonder this.



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    The cloak is blue in my tekst.

    In Icelandic:
    Hangir vót į vegg,
    veit hattkilan bragš,
    žvķgit optar žurr,
    žeygi dylk, at hon viti tvau.

    Anglish:
    Wet on the wall it hangs
    yet knows of wiles, this hood;
    it will not dry again,
    I do not hide that it knows of two.

    The cloak says it knows two wiles. Those are the betrayals of Snorri, first the vķg of Helgi Haršbeinsson, the other the vķg of Žorgils himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nįttfari
    The cloak is blue in my tekst.

    In Icelandic:
    Hangir vót į vegg,
    veit hattkilan bragš,
    žvķgit optar žurr,
    žeygi dylk, at hon viti tvau.

    Anglish:
    Wet on the wall it hangs
    yet knows of wiles, this hood;
    it will not dry again,
    I do not hide that it knows of two.

    The cloak says it knows two wiles. Those are the betrayals of Snorri, first the vķg of Helgi Haršbeinsson, the other the vķg of Žorgils himself.
    Beautiful, a Ghormuil. What do you understand of..."žvķgit optar žurr"? Perhaps that its wearer [Žorgils] wil never again wear it, and shal therefor never dry, for his head is to be taken by Žórarinns son?



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    Yes, I do believe it to be so, 'twill not be used again for the owner is to be killed.

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    Question Best sources for material?

    Given that i consider myself always a student of history what sources could everyone refer me to either on the internet or books

    Sources that are in english would be perfer but German text are ok to.

    Mainly i'm after the sagas, poems, and anything to go with nordic religions. Also im interested in which set of Runes everyone would consider best to learn or study?


    P.s accurate translations would also be nice to
    Wotan Mit Uns

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