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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    You are not even polish. You are a Yank.
    I am descended from Poland, generations dating back centuries. I will return someday and defend what is sacred.

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    This is about what the FRENCH thought of Polaks. And funny thing is, they made the same experiance like anyone else who had the misfortune of having to deal with them.
    As if there aren't anti-English or anti-German feelings dating back in the history of France? I don't see your point. Just another attempt at making cheap shots against Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForMyFatherland
    I am descended from Poland, generations dating back centuries. I will return someday and defend what is sacred.
    Descendant from Poland? And thats why you have an irish Atavar and an irish flag! eyes:

    Would it help much if I state that you have my sympathys and I feel sorry for you?

    Defend what and against whom? LOL - you would be willing to follow the orders of polish officers? :
    Hahahaha! You could just as well jump off a skyscraper! Hahaha!



    As if there aren't anti-English or anti-German feelings dating back in the history of France? I don't see your point. Just another attempt at making cheap shots against Poland.
    Oh yeah? Well that isn't the subject here, now is it? So whats your problem? Is Baron de Marbot a liar? Did General Masion kill some poor and inocen Polaks who were just playing a "practical joke"? Is it untrue that they are "Drunkards" and thieves? Is it just a big conspiracy of the entire world..... or do they just describe what they see?

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    Brandt, before making such accusations with historical texts such as these, at least learn how to interpret a text not only with analysis of the material given but of the social/political situation at the time it was written. Bias occurs on both sides and it is a matter of detecting it whether the result pleases you or not. History isn't for you to make up as you go along. Are Poles drunkards and thieves? Are all Russians drunks? Do Germans sit around eating sauerkraut all day? Are the French always in surrender? Do Scots run around in kilts? Need I go on? Drunkards and thieves exist among the Poles as they exist in EVERY nation. I'm sure I could say the same about the English if I went and did so-called "research" with a bias in that anything anyone says which agrees with my opinion "MUST be true"...unfortunately that is NOT the case in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    Descendant from Poland? And thats why you have an irish Atavar! eyes:
    I am partly Polish and partly Irish. I am loyal to both lands but my heart will always lie in the beauty of Poland.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    Defend what and against whom? LOL - you would be willing to follow the orders of polish officers? :
    Hahahaha! You could just as well jump off a skyscraper! Hahaha!
    In case you haven't noticed, Europe as a whole is crumbling, becoming more and more Americanized and less and less traditional. It needs strong minded men, with a serious mind-set, willing to stand up and fight for the survival of culture and blood. And no I wouldn't obey a Polish officer just as you wouldn't follow the beliefs of your government. Is it truly necessary I put these things into perspective for you? Can you not see the hypocrisy?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    Oh yeah? Well that isn't the subject here, now is it? So whats your problem?
    My problem is that you continuously create threads to insult Poland, with no other intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormanBlood
    Do Germans sit around eating sauerkraut all day? Are the French always in surrender? Do Scots run around in kilts? Are all Russians drunks?
    No, these are just stereotypes.

    Are Poles drunkards and thieves?
    Ever met a Pole?
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Quote Originally Posted by NormanBlood
    Brandt, before making such accusations with historical texts such as these, at least learn how to interpret a text not only with analysis of the material given but of the social/political situation at the time it was written. Bias occurs on both sides and it is a matter of detecting it whether the result pleases you or not. History isn't for you to make up as you go along. Are Poles drunkards and thieves? Are all Russians drunks? Do Germans sit around eating sauerkraut all day? Are the French always in surrender? Do Scots run around in kilts? Need I go on? Drunkards and thieves exist among the Poles as they exist in EVERY nation. I'm sure I could say the same about the English if I went and did so-called "research" with a bias in that anything anyone says which agrees with my opinion "MUST be true"...unfortunately that is NOT the case in history.
    What gives you the idea that the folkcharacter of these people is not exactly the same as it was back then?
    What a bunch of low down crimminals to rob and plunder their own comrades. And not a single incident - they all did it. 50 (fifty!) were shot.
    And why is it that during communist Poland they had a special intelligence unit that would organize robberys in Westgermany, looting mansions ect. and bringing the booty back to Poland?
    And why is it that the "new Poland" is just as crimminal and full of thieves?
    Are todays spinless and hypersensetive Germans just malicious when they claim of their stolen cars: "Kaum gestohlen, schon ind Polen". Not to forget the grand scale theft in the years 1919-21 from Germany, Ukraine and Russia and 1945 from Germany again.
    Do you see a pattern? If not, then you are blind. These observations are consistant throughout the ages and centurys.
    I always thought the French, especialy the republican French had positive feelings about the Polaks. Thats why these comments of Baron de Marbot about his ALLIES are so refreshing and......true.

    There is simply NO REASON AT ALL for Germans to have the slightes sympathy with Polaks. None. Nill. Zilch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop

    Ever met a Pole?
    I remember when I was driving with a comrade through Silesia to visit the Annaberg and Glewitz and Gross Rosen Camp. At 10 in the morning you could see polak workers sitting on the roadside smoking and drinking, empty vodka bottles and beercans scattered at the side of the road.
    We had a wonderfull laugh seeing how our "sterotypes" were being confirmed. "Polnische Wirtschaft".

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    We, the Croats look at Poles like this:

    Poor and un-galant people, with lowsy cars that come to our coast and bring their own tins of pate and beans and do not spend a dime on something in here... Probably that will stay the same even after they get ritch by plundering Germans inside EU. I remember Poles during the 80's when the Iron Curtain was not so tight anymore. They sold cheep tires, bike pumps, pipes, fur-coats, tools, spare parts of east-Euro cars and other cheep east-Euro products at our local marketplaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    There is simply NO REASON AT ALL for Germans to have the slightes sympathy with Polaks. None. Nill. Zilch.
    And interesting enough, no German actually likes Poles or wants to have anything to do with them. Even the Jews have friends over here.
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    I'm Polish (came here from pure curiosity). I know one German that actually likes Poles. It was my girlfriend when I lived in USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    Zitat von NormanBlood "Do Germans sit around eating sauerkraut all day? Are the French always in surrender? Do Scots run around in kilts? Are all Russians drunks?"

    No, these are just stereotypes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop

    Zitat:
    "Are Poles drunkards and thieves?"

    Ever met a Pole?
    This also just only stereotype.

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