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    Quote Originally Posted by Syfon
    This is Goebbels propaganda.
    No it is not. Ever heard of Else Löser? Read anything written by her. What the Poles are thought are mostly sad lies. Else Löser described this in a writing translated by Carlos Porter; The Image of the Germans in Polish Literature

    See for example:
    http://www.cwporter.com/image.htm



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    Talleyrand was one of the most intelligent politicians of his day, he knew what he was talking about.

    Also, I can't help but notice that the Polaks have only known it 4 ways since 1800:

    being France's bitch
    being Prussia's/Germany's bitch
    being Russia's/soviet bitch
    being England's/America's puppetstate

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    Damn, I forgot, they were Austria's bitch too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CONSTANTINUS
    Talleyrand was one of the most intelligent politicians of his day, he knew what he was talking about.

    Also, I can't help but notice that the Polaks have only known it 4 ways since 1800:

    being France's bitch
    being Prussia's/Germany's bitch
    being Russia's/soviet bitch
    being England's/America's puppetstate
    When Napoleon asked the ex polish General Kosciuszko to join him, he answered that he is well aware of the lazyness and the undecent charakter of his own people, that he could hope that they would rise for their own liberation, even if they had the help of France.

    General Marbot writes in his recolections

    Above all, he doubted the constancy of the Poles, who, after dragging him into war with the three most powerful of the northern nations, might perhaps fail to deliver their promised support. The Emperor therefore replied to these propositions that he would not recognise the kingdom of Poland until the inhabitants of these huge areas had shown themselves worthy of independence by rising against their oppressors.

    .......The need to maintain order in the provinces occupied by the army led the Emperor, in spite of everything, to appoint prefects and sub-prefects who were chosen from the most enlightened Poles, but their administration was illusory and no help to the French army.


    ....My old servant, Woirland, had asked leave to stay in Spain, hoping to make his fortune in a canteen, and I had replaced him when I left Salamanca by a Pole named Lorenz Schilkowski. He had been an Austrian uhlan and was not lacking in wits, but was a drunkard like all the Poles......


    ......The Emperor ordered General Montbrun and Colonel Pire, Berthier's aide-de-camp, to charge with the 80 Polish light horsemen who formed his duty escort. This charge was stopped almost immediately. When Colonel Pire informed Napoleon that it was impossible to take the pass with cavalry, Napoleon exploded and "...violently striking the pommel of his saddle he exclaimed: 'How, impossible? I do not know the word! There should not be anything impossible for my Poles!" General Walther, the commander of the Guard, advised Napoleon that his infantry was moving up the steep hills on either side of pass, and would soon outflank the Spanish positions. To which Napoleon replied "Impossible! What! My guards stopped by peasants! By armed bands!" He then ordered Philippe de Segur "...Go at once, make my Poles charge, make them take everything, or bring me back prisoners!"

    ........Very soon, in spite of our clamour and the detonation of so many arms, I could distinguish behind me the sound of smart reports followed by groans, with the thud of falling men and horses, which made me foresee defeat. Our warlike cries were becoming lost in the cries of pain of the unfortunate Poles.......




    Im begining to like this Baron de Marbot more and more! :

    >>he doubted the constancy of the Poles, who, after dragging him into war with the three most powerful of the northern nations, might perhaps fail to deliver their promised support<<

    LOL - Couldn't the french have learned from their history in 1939? They should have read their Marbot before being suckerd by these "Drunkards" into a War.


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    I don't hate you as a person......yet.... :biggrin:

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    Are the Poles to blame for the self hating Germans out there today indulging in non-traditional sub-culture? Are the Poles to blame for all the Germans out there not giving a hoot about their ancestors? Or I suppose the Poles are to blame for the massive immigration of Turks into Germany and the future of a racial mixing disaster? Will you still blame the Poles when your culture is dead and gone and all that's left is a Turkish/German blend?

    Maybe then you'd realize that instead of wasting your time hating Poles all your life, you could have done something wonderful and uniting for your folk. Hey, maybe you'll even realize that the chances for another third reich are slim to none.

    As for you Stig, you have my upmost respect! You are a fine minded Germanic kinsman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForMyFatherland
    Are the Poles to blame for the self hating Germans out there today indulging in non-traditional sub-culture? Are the Poles to blame for all the Germans out there not giving a hoot about their ancestors? Or I suppose the Poles are to blame for the massive immigration of Turks into Germany and the future of a racial mixing disaster? Will you still blame the Poles when your culture is dead and gone and all that's left is a Turkish/German blend?

    Maybe then you'd realize that instead of wasting your time hating Poles all your life, you could have done something wonderful and uniting for your folk. Hey, maybe you'll even realize that the chances for another third reich are slim to none.

    As for you Stig, you have my upmost respect! You are a fine minded Germanic kinsman!
    Whats your whining Rant got to do with Baron de Marbot?
    Yeah, thats right - Nothing!

    Now take your Horse oh mighty polish cavalrist or I shall call for some spanish peasants to show you the way.... :biggrin:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForMyFatherland
    Maybe then you'd realize that instead of wasting your time hating Poles all your life, you could have done something wonderful and uniting for your folk.
    There is so much hate in me, the Turks alone simply aren´t enough to hate. :biggrin:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    Whats your whining Rant got to do with Baron de Marbot?
    Yeah, thats right - Nothing!

    Now take your Horse oh mighty polish cavalrist or I shall call for some spanish peasants to show you the way.... :biggrin:

    You're just in denial that Germans are headed in all directions but progressive, and you wish the Poles were to blame, but sadly enough, in your case, that is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    There is so much hate in me, the Turks alone simply aren´t enough to hate. :biggrin:
    Amen mein Volksgenosse! :biggrin:

    The Turks and other foreigners are the poison that should ruin our blood and soil.
    the Polaks are part of the "Coalition of Prisonguards" that keep Germany enslaved and "in cheque".

    Quote Originally Posted by ForMyFatherland
    You're just in denial that Germans are headed in all directions but progressive, and you wish the Poles were to blame, but sadly enough, in your case, that is not true.
    You are not even polish. You are a Yank. so why don't you mind your own buisness?
    We know where we are heading and we know who is to blame and we also know that "we" are also to blame for it today!
    But we also know how it came about and who is sitting on OUR land and who MURDERED OUR PEOPLE.
    But never mind all that. This is about what the FRENCH thought of Polaks. And funny thing is, they made the same experiance like anyone else who had the misfortune of having to deal with them.

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