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    Quote Originally Posted by axelrod
    If I had a sister, she would look like her. Predominantly Corded/Halstatt.
    In that case you'd have a fine looking sister. :icon_mrgr
    (ignore me, i'm a moron)

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    Following the SNPA taxonomy, this Estonian model looks East-Baltic. She features the round-tipped snub nose. She looks brachycephalic. There are pictures where her face looks very thin and narrow:
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2806

    However, on other pictures, it appears broader and squarer:
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2810
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2813

    According to Southern Boy, she looks West Baltic (Corded Trønder). However, this West Baltic type does not have a SNPA description with thumbnails. If someone could design a gallery dedicated to this type following the SNPA layout standards, this would help us to have a better idea of what the so-called West Baltic type exactly is.

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    she does not look bracycephalic in any of the pictures, she only has high cheekbones.

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    I'm wondering how he got to the assumption she looks brachylcephalic without any top or or side view pictures..? Is there something I missed???

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    We would need a profile picture in order to get a better idea of her cephalic index, but her head looks rather large. When I look at her facial features, I cannot figure anything else than a flat occiput.

    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2810
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2813


    The developments of the face and the head are parallel as I have stated in my website (see the section concerning the relations between head and face morphology).

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    Quote Originally Posted by william_russellsb
    Following the SNPA taxonomy, this Estonian model looks East-Baltic. She features the round-tipped snub nose. She looks brachycephalic. There are pictures where her face looks very thin and narrow:
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2806

    However, on other pictures, it appears broader and squarer:
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2810
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2813

    According to Southern Boy, she looks West Baltic (Corded Trønder). However, this West Baltic type does not have a SNPA description with thumbnails. If someone could design a gallery dedicated to this type following the SNPA layout standards, this would help us to have a better idea of what the so-called West Baltic type exactly is.
    On the SNPA website, the Tronder types from Hardanger "Hardanger Type" are what I call West Baltic. The pictures depict exactly the type I classified her as, which is predominantly Corded-Tronder. I hope this helps William. :icon_bigg

    Tronder: http://snpa.skadi.net/index2.htm






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    Quote Originally Posted by william_russellsb
    We would need a profile picture in order to get a better idea of her cephalic index, but her head looks rather large. When I look at her facial features, I cannot figure anything else than a flat occiput.

    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2810
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2813

    I still do not quite see how you can figure a flat occiput from those two pictures.

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    On these pictures, one can note the way her hair is dressed so that it falls down in a straight fashion. This could not be the case if her head was dolichocephalic. You also have an angle that gives an indication of her overall head shape. If you add to that the fact that her frontal features look rather wide, you conclude that she is brachycephalic. You should also take a closer look at the way her hairdressing gives an indication of her head shape, especially at the top of her cranial vault.
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2813
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2810

    Thanks to Southern Boy for his explanation concerning the West Baltic type.

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    The impression I get is quite the opposite. I would say she is definitely dolichocephalic. I can assume that much from the thin breadth, and elongation of her face; which is typical of dolichocephals. Although we would need a profile shot for a more accurate assumption.






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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    The impression I get is quite the opposite. I would say she is definitely dolichocephalic. I can assume that much from the thin breadth, and elongation of her face; which is typical of dolichocephals. Although we would need a profile shot for a more accurate assumption.

    It's not always the case though. Dinarics and Armenoids can have long faces but short heads.
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