View Poll Results: What form of military service do you support?

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  • Universal military service(ex. Switzerland)

    22 46.81%
  • Professional/Volunteer(ex. UK, USA)

    21 44.68%
  • No military service at all(i.e., I'm a hippie)

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Thread: What Form of Military Service Should We Support?

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    Question What Form of Military Service Should We Support?

    What form of military service should we as Nationalists support?

    Historically, Nationalists have always been on the side of universal military service. In fact the concepts of "People's War" and "People's Army" have origins in Nationalism, not Communism.

    The terms were first used by Prussian strategists like Scharnhorst when they wanted to reorganize the Prussian military in order to defeat Napoleon(after their defeat at Jena in 1806).

    I support the concept of universal military service and I believe military service should be considered the greatest honor to any nationalist. My views on this topic are influenced by Plato, Aristotle, Machivaelli, Rousseau*, Scharnhorst, among others.

    I agree with Machiavelli and Rousseau* that military service should also be a school to promote nationalist pride and the study of national traditions. Ironically, we have a good example of this in the Israeli military, where instruction in Jewish traditions is mandatory and even courses in Hewbrew are offered for Jewish immigrants who don't speak it. I also agree with Machiavelli that military service teaches men how to be good citizens; in that it teaches them virtues such as courage and loyalty, which they need to be good citizens anyways.

    You can talk about the specific conditions in your country. I, for example, am firmly opposed to Putin's plans for transforming the Russian military to a professional force. I believe this will only seek to weaken Russia militarily. Yes, the Russian military is in need of reforms, but conscription is not the answer to the problem. If anybody wants, I'll provide some articles that explain this issue from a Russian perspective.

    What are other peoples' thoughts?



    *By Rousseau, I'm largely refering to his "Considerations for the Government of Poland", and the military system to which he proposed for them(which is largely based on the Swiss model).

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    No way should people be forced by a draft into military service. It is not for everyone, and you just can't make a soldier out of some people. Also, if someone is not suited for military life, it puts their life and that of others at risk.

    When I got out of high school I wanted to join the Navy or Coast Guard but they told me I was not tall enough. The height requirement is 4'10" to 6'8" for females, so they were either lying to me or just didn't know. Or maybe they used it as an excuse after seeing my psychological record...

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Personally I like the Universal idea. Armed citizens. The US may have a professional military but many of its citizens are armed as well and should remain that way.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
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    When I got out of high school I wanted to join the Navy or Coast Guard but they told me I was not tall enough. The height requirement is 4'10" to 6'8" for females, so they were either lying to me or just didn't know. Or maybe they used it as an excuse after seeing my psychological record...
    So what height are you? I'm just wondering if they thought you looked under 4'10''!

    I've always quite liked the idea of a compulsory year in service for men. I honestly don't think the army is the place for females though I had a brif interest in joining up myself - only for weapons training though I'm far too weak for anything else!

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    We have mandatory military service which was gradually reduced to 8 months, and it's still a big strain on the economy, as well as being totally pointless.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scathach
    I've always quite liked the idea of a compulsory year in service for men.
    I'm more in favor of 2 years.

    I honestly don't think the army is the place for females
    I agree, women do not belong in the military, except maybe in support roles; but never actual combat.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    I think women would make good snipers and firing squad executioners. We're not suited for hand-to-hand combat.

    I have met a lot of emotionally frail men who probably couldn't handle killing a person. I'm a tough bitch when I need to be, I have never run away from a fight or lost one. I would only fight in a war if the cause was noble.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    I think women would make good snipers and firing squad executioners. We're not suited for hand-to-hand combat.

    I have met a lot of emotionally frail men who probably couldn't handle killing a person. I'm a tough bitch when I need to be, I have never run away from a fight or lost one. I would only fight in a war if the cause was noble.


    The idea that a woman should have to fight in a war would mean that all nobility in the world was already lost.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsmaschine
    The idea that a woman should have to fight in a war would mean that all nobility in the world was already lost.
    Indeed. Although despite what some "experts" are saying, theres no evidence of women ever being in combat, or in any real significant combat.

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    Post Re: What form of military service should we support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pushkin
    Indeed. Although despite what some "experts" are saying, theres no evidence of women ever being in combat, or in any real significant combat.
    True. In the US military, woman are allowed to join, but they are still not allowed to join in the "combat arms" branch of any military service. They are only allowed to go into the "Service and Support" branch, which is their place.

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