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    Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Tue Dec 30, 5:05 PM ET

    By Randy Dotinga
    HealthDay Reporter

    TUESDAY, Dec. 30 (HealthDayNews) -- When women get yeast infections, men often get the blame. Males aren't immune to pesky species of fungus, and some experts assume they unknowingly transmit the disease to their wives and girlfriends.

    But a new study suggests the situation isn't so simple.

    Researchers found no direct connection between male sex partners and yeast infections in women, even if the men themselves were infected, too.

    "This is a pretty good study for men," says study co-author Dr. Barbara Reed, a professor of medicine at the University of Michigan. "They've been getting a bum rap suggesting they were responsible for these recurrences, and it doesn't look to be the case."

    Men aren't entirely off the hook, however. Females who engaged in sex acts involving saliva -- their own or their partner's -- were more likely to get infected repeatedly.

    Yeast, a kind of fungus also known as Candida, can set up shop throughout the body, from the throat to the intestines to the genitals.

    "It lives in the moist orifices of a lot of people's bodies and is part of their normal makeup," says Dr. Vera Stucky, assistant chief of obstetrics-gynecology with the Kaiser Permanente Health Plan in San Diego. Anywhere from 25 percent to 75 percent of people will be "colonized" at any one time, she says.

    In many cases, especially in men, the infections don't cause symptoms. In women, however, yeast infections can disrupt the bacterial balance of the vagina, causing burning, itching, discharge and odor.

    An estimated 70 percent of all women develop yeast infections during their lives, and about four in 10 become infected more than once. The infections can be treated with antifungal creams and drugs.

    It's not clear what exactly causes yeast infections, Reed says. "A number of risk factors have been discussed over the years, such as dietary risks, such as eating a lot of sugar and yeast, or oral contraceptives, pregnancy and AIDS. But most of the time, when we see a woman with a yeast infection, we don't find any good reason for her to have the infection."

    Men, however, seem to be an obvious culprit. "People have speculated that we treat the woman and get rid of the yeast, then the partner carries the yeast and reinfects her. There have been some studies where they tried treating both the man and woman, but it really didn't seem to make a difference."

    In the new study, Reed and colleagues studied 148 women with yeast infections and 78 of their male sex partners. (Only a small number of lesbians took part, and they were not included in the study statistics.) Researchers followed the subjects for one year, testing both the men and women to see if yeast had colonized their mouths, intestines or genitals.

    The findings of the study appear in the December issue of the Journal of Women's Health.

    Thirty-three of the women went on to develop new yeast infections. They were 2.6 to 2.9 times more likely to get infected again if they recently engaged in cunnilingus (oral sex upon a woman) or masturbated with saliva (either theirs or their partner's). It didn't seem to matter if their male partners were infected or how often they had genital intercourse, Reed says.

    "We're speculating that there's some interaction between components in the saliva and her vaginal wall that makes her more likely to develop symptoms as she reacts to the [yeast] that might be present."

    Stucky says it's not a surprise to find men aren't responsible for yeast infections. "It went along with our medical thinking that men really aren't the link."

    The potential connection to saliva is mysterious, she says, and the researchers "really couldn't really explain that." They did, however, suggest that saliva may cause tears in tissue or disrupt the vagina's "delicate equilibrium," perhaps by changing how the immune system reacts to invaders.

    What to do? Reed suggests that women who repeatedly get yeast infections take a break from the two possible risky sexual acts: cunnilingus and masturbation with saliva. "You may want to see if cutting back gives you a longer time without infection."

    Happily, there is some good news. "This doesn't mean that oral sex is a risk for everybody," Reed says. "If you don't tend to have recurrent yeast infections, it's probably not a problem."
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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    They were 2.6 to 2.9 times more likely to get infected again if they recently engaged in cunnilingus (oral sex upon a woman).

    So lesbians are nearly 3 times more likely to contract yeast infections! Ew, letting a lesbian kiss you on the mouth is worse than letting a dog kiss you on the mouth!
    Last edited by Nordhammer; Wednesday, December 31st, 2003 at 05:01 PM.

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordhammer
    They were 2.6 to 2.9 times more likely to get infected again if they recently engaged in cunnilingus (oral sex upon a woman).

    So lesbians are nearly 3 times more likely to contract yeast infections! Ew, letting a lesbian kiss you on the mouth is worse than letting a dog kiss you on the mouth!
    Well, let's be honest - many heterosexual men, if not the majority, give oral sex to their female sex partners, not just lesbians.

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    I think it is from all these unnecessary chemical-perfumed products women use which upsets the pH balance of the vagina, the wearing of tight clothes, and wearing man-made fibers.

    The pH balance of the vagina is acidic, which discourages infections from occurring. When the pH balance in the vagina changes from acidic to more basic, the Candida albicans fungus grows rapidly, which causes the symptoms of yeast infection.

    A vagina is not supposed to smell like the laboratory-produced flower perfume thrown in all these feminine protection, cleansing and deodorant products. Douche makes the vagina smell worse from infections and a stinky discharge. Women mainly douche after sex, to rid their vagina of the 'filthy semen.' That always seemed blatantly lesbian to me, to think of a man's precious seed as something 'dirty' that needs to be washed out of your crotch. There's nothing more natural than having some sperm in your vagina.

    Be good to your vagina, and it will be good to you. Wash the outside gently with mild pure soap, such as Ivory. Your body will manage the cleanliness of the inside, just leave it alone.

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    The pH balance of the vagina is acidic,
    Just like the rest of every female.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Just like the rest of every female.
    You're right.

    My overall pH level = 1
    I envision a world where people dawning long white robes and elaborate headdresses run rampant down the streets, waving their arms in the air while screaming "we've gone mad, we've gone mad", like defrocked monks breaking the silence of ages past.

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Vaginas are acidic.....como LSD?

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    The Who: "Acid Queen" (from the concept album "Tommy")

    If your child ain't all he should be now
    This girl will put him right.
    I'll show him what he could be now
    Just give me one night.

    I'm the Gypsy - the acid Queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I'm the Gypsy - The acid queen.
    I'll tear your soul apart.

    Give us a room and close the door
    Leave us for a while.
    Your boy won't be a boy no more
    Young, but not a child.

    I'm the Gypsy - the acid queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I'm the Gypsy the acid queen.
    I'll tear your soul apart.

    Gather your wits and hold on fast,
    Your mind must learn to roam.
    Just as the Gypsy Queen must do
    You're gonna hit the road.

    My work is done now look at him
    He's never been more alive.
    His head it shakes his fingers clutch.
    Watch his body writhe

    I'm the Gypsy - the acid queen.
    Pay before we start.
    I'm the Gypsy - I'm guaranteed.
    To break your little heart
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Even more appropriate in this context:


    Lords Of Acid
    : Acid Queen

    I want you to give me a show
    I'll give you a show, I'll give you a show

    Show me your pussy, show me your pussy

    Show it to me, show it to me

    She's an acid queen, if you know what I mean

    Hey bitch, now I want you to go down on your hands and knees
    Come on, on your hands and knees, on your hands and knees

    I want it, you want what, you want what?
    I want your cock, I want your cock

    She's an acid queen, if you know what I mean

    Ahaa ooh that's nice, ahaa ooh that's nice

    Ready, ready, take it, aah, take it, aah, take it, aah, take it, aah

    She's an acid queen, if you know what I mean (x2)
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Study Absolves Men in Yeast Infections

    Venom: Acid Queen

    You - have got everything I need
    You - can bring my soul out of me
    I'll pay your wicked price - deliver your merchandise
    Gypsy, you'll drive me a dream

    Acid Queen

    Wild - tames the raging beast
    Child - helps the blind to see
    Demon controls my mind - leaves the real world behind
    Mould me a purgatory scene

    Acid Queen

    Acid Queen...

    Can you hear me - i said get out of here you..

    Witch - now you've given all you've got
    Bitch - thought you'd left me here to rot
    You're coming down and fast - you've tripped your very last
    I'll take your place and sing

    Acid King
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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