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    Post Teen Girls Discovering 'Bisexual Chic' Trend

    S. Florida teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend


    Debate rises over whether a kiss is just a kiss.

    By Jamie Malernee
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    Posted December 30 2003

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,5644616.story

    "Kiss! Kiss! Kiss!"

    A group of teenagers is gathered at a party. Music's playing; smuggled booze is flowing. Two girls grin sheepishly at each other as a crowd goads them on.

    Finally, the teens relent, rewarding their audience with some mouth-on-mouth action.

    It's not an unusual scene, according to South Florida high school students, who say the newest trend for teen girls isn't wearing the latest designer jeans or driving a cool car, but declaring themselves to be bisexual.

    "Some do it for attention. Some do it because guys like it. And some do it just because they can. It's definitely a fad," says Stranahan High student Christy Shalley, president of the Fort Lauderdale school's Gay Straight Alliance.

    Jessie Gilliam, program manager for Youth Resource -- a national Web site created by and for gay, lesbian and bisexual young people -- says the trend is known as "bisexual chic," or in many cases, "faux bisexual." It usually starts with some hand-holding or grinding on the dance floor, then progresses from there.

    "It's a countrywide thing," she says.

    Note to parents: If this seems particularly shocking, try turning on a TV to see why most kids aren't as fazed. There's the infamous kiss between Britney Spears and Madonna at the recent MTV Music Video Awards. There's the popular singing duet Tatu, two Russian teenage girls who, depending on whom you believe, are really in love with each other or just part of a brilliant marketing scheme that simultaneously appeals to gays, misunderstood adolescents and the Lolita lust of straight men.

    Flip to another channel, and you'll see beer commercials where guys fantasize about two female friends "catfighting" in a fountain.

    Despite this constant stream of images, students say moms and dads generally are clueless that it's really happening.

    "Nobody's parents know," says David Sternberg, a senior at Spanish River High in Boca Raton. "And if they think they know, they really don't know."

    He adds that some girls may truly be questioning their sexuality, but others just want to be perceived as hot.

    "Girls go for the whole mystery thing. And guys usually think it's attractive. It's a turn-on. It's more of a teasing thing. At parties, girls randomly kiss, and guys are like, `Oh! That's awesome!'" he says.

    Sharon Friedlander, head of guidance for Broward public schools, says adults in the school system are well aware of students' growing flirtation with bisexuality. But she doesn't necessarily see it as an entirely new phenomenon.

    "The questioning process is part of growing up," she says.

    Children acting out

    In the past, young people may have waited until college to explore their sexuality. Today, it's common for that process to start at a younger age, Friedlander and other educators say.

    "It's really just straight children acting out that natural pubescent rebellion, of stepping out of the boundaries the previous generation set up," says Clarence Brooks, a teacher at Bak Middle School of the Arts in West Palm Beach.

    Sam Deblaker of Wilton Manors says she first experimented with girls because of the way guys reacted.

    "I liked the attention," the 17-year-old says, adding that though she has had a boyfriend for two years, she occasionally kisses girls in front of him. "He likes it. It's fun."

    But not all students are so accepting.

    "It's wrong. God made us male and female for a reason," says Jenny Saint Jean, 15, a freshman at Fort Lauderdale High.

    Karla Núñez, 16, agrees: "I don't go to those kind of parties."

    Stephanie Forman, a sophomore at Cypress Bay High in Weston, says the trend is sort of "disgusting," but she's used to seeing it.

    "Guys are like, `Kiss, kiss, kiss!'" she said, adding that some behavior carries over onto campus. "Parents shouldn't freak out. It's just for fun."

    From one perspective, Sternberg sees the trend as a sign of greater tolerance toward gay people. He came out with an article in his school newspaper this year and says most people have been accepting.

    On the other hand, he says, the girl-girl trend, and the relative casual reaction to it, also shows how males aren't allowed the flexible sexuality females are.

    "It's all fine and good for women, but if a guy is experimenting with a guy, he'll feel the consequences," Sternberg says. "Someone could really hurt you or make a point of humiliating you."

    The double standard is part of the reason Gilliam doesn't think the fad will do much for gay rights in the long run.

    "It's a bisexuality that's focused on heterosexuality in that it's still focused on pleasing a man, a heterosexual audience, and in that sense it's not progressive," she says. "Sexism plays into it. Girls in our culture aren't supposed to have a sexuality on their own terms."

    As for the issue of girls who may be "faking" bisexuality to get attention, adults say this could be the new equivalent to young women who experiment with lots of boys for the same reason.

    "Above all ... we try to teach them to have respect for themselves," says Friedlander. "It has huge implications. Two or three years from now, when the world is talking about them, it's not such a `turn-on.' Many cannot internalize that. For them, there is nothing other than the moment."

    `Real' vs. `fake'

    The very idea of "real" vs. "fake" bisexuality is controversial. Some people don't believe bisexuality exists -- believing that those who say they are bisexual are either experimenting straight people, or homosexuals who aren't fully ready to admit their orientation.

    "It's important to take bisexuality as a serious identity. It's a myth that bisexuality is a phase," counters California-based Denise Penn, president of BiNet USA, one of the oldest advocacy and network groups in the nation for bisexuals. "Maybe these girls aren't faking it. Maybe `bisexual chic' gives them a way of exploring their bisexuality without committing to it. They can say, `Oh, we're just playing.'"

    Ironically, Toby Hill-Meyer, a University of Oregon student doing his master's on how people identify their own sexuality, says that because of "bisexual chic" many "true" bisexuals resist identifying with that word anymore.

    "They don't want to be associated with that trendiness," he says.

    Either way, Penn says, it doesn't really matter who's faking and who's not. She thinks the entire issue conveys a larger message.

    "People like to categorize us, label us, so they can frame their thinking about us. But sexuality is so complex," she says. "Everyone is different."

    Jamie Malernee can be reached at jmalernee@sun-sentinel.com or 954-356-4849.

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    Disgusting.

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    It's a disturbing tragedy how, among white men, female homosexuality is regarded as "not as bad" as male homosexuality. Indeed, I've even heard of white men encouraging their girlfriends/wives to engage in homosexuality to satisfy their odd and degenerate voyeuristic fantasies.

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveheart
    It's a disturbing tragedy how, among white men, female homosexuality is regarded as "not as bad" as male homosexuality. Indeed, I've even heard of white men encouraging their girlfriends/wives to engage in homosexuality to satisfy their odd and degenerate voyeuristic fantasies.
    In fact, I've done it - she can try it for all I care. If she falls for that, and wants it repeatedly, I know she is too weak and does not deserve such a quality product as myself (this type of arrogance is called self-respect and self-assertion). It is separating the wheat from the chaff.

    I know that most, even very decent men I know, prefer a reticent and pleasant, easy-to-get-along-with woman to an intelligent and strong-willed one. I demand both. Anything that is not top-notch does not qualify for being my mate, so I have no problems with putting her to test over and over again. Only that way I can be truly sure to have healthy, decent, smart and resolute progeny.

    Seriously, I know no compromise or lenience when it comes to the topic of my future offspring and choosing the right mother for them. I am willing to go to any length, including the aforementioned one, to find out whether she deserves that privilege. This stance is connate and it has been following me for all my life. If for any reason I resign and abandon these principles of mine, I know I will again regret it someday. I'd rather perish without children than rewinding the clock of evolution by setting for less.

    Great. This severe headache I have has induced me to reveal my true extremist nature here on skadi.net. So much about being a young, moderate fellow.
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    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    I kissed a girl. Didn't do anything for me, so I never did it again. Same thing with cigarettes and rollercoasters.

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    "It's wrong. God made us male and female for a reason," says Jenny Saint Jean, 15, a freshman at Fort Lauderdale High.
    Someone has integrity. Hurruh! I agree with Triglav but I don't think I'd go that far as to actually encourage it.
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    My current girlfriend is bisexual. I don't see anything wrong with female bisexuality, as long as it's not disgusting idiotism ( like this USA drunken-party-bisexuals ).

    I don't understand how you can compare female and male sexuality and bisexuality.
    There is a world of difference between two women kissing and men drilling eachothers rectum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    There is a world of difference between two women kissing and men drilling eachothers rectum.
    I have to agree with you there.


    There is a difference between being homosexual and committing homosexual acts. Homosexuals want relationships with people of the same sex., whereas a lot of heterosexuals are capable of "getting it on" with someone of the same sex, but it's usually "just sex". Often, this happens in something known as a "threesome", which is really not too uncommon, and never has been.

    I don't understand people who think that human horniness is a recent phenomenon! Marquis de Sade, anyone?
    I envision a world where people dawning long white robes and elaborate headdresses run rampant down the streets, waving their arms in the air while screaming "we've gone mad, we've gone mad", like defrocked monks breaking the silence of ages past.

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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordhammer
    "Girls go for the whole mystery thing. And guys usually think it's attractive. It's a turn-on. It's more of a teasing thing. At parties, girls randomly kiss, and guys are like, `Oh! That's awesome!'" he says.
    That's pretty awesome, yeah.

    "I liked the attention," the 17-year-old says, adding that though she has had a boyfriend for two years, she occasionally kisses girls in front of him. "He likes it. It's fun."
    Yeah, I liked it, too ... but this trend exists for at least 20 years in Europe.

    "It's wrong. God made us male and female for a reason," says Jenny Saint Jean, 15, a freshman at Fort Lauderdale High.
    And a Jewish rabbi is your Lord.

    Karla Núñez, 16, agrees: "I don't go to those kind of parties."
    Judged by her name, she will probably not be missed.

    "Guys are like, `Kiss, kiss, kiss!'" she said, adding that some behavior carries over onto campus. "Parents shouldn't freak out. It's just for fun."
    Why should anyone freak out over it? Oh, I forgot, Judeo-Christianity.

    The very idea of "real" vs. "fake" bisexuality is controversial. Some people don't believe bisexuality exists -- believing that those who say they are bisexual are either experimenting straight people, or homosexuals who aren't fully ready to admit their orientation.
    Long disproved by science.

    "It's important to take bisexuality as a serious identity. It's a myth that bisexuality is a phase," counters California-based Denise Penn, president of BiNet USA, one of the oldest advocacy and network groups in the nation for bisexuals. "Maybe these girls aren't faking it. Maybe `bisexual chic' gives them a way of exploring their bisexuality without committing to it. They can say, `Oh, we're just playing.'"
    Absolutely true. Sexual orientation, or rather the brain sexuality, can be tested and plotted as a curve from "extremely male" to "extremely female". While most males tend to cluster near the extremes, i. e. they are either considered typically heterosexual or typically homosexual, the curve of females is much flatter, what means that at least a significant minority of them has at least slight bisexual tendencies, with the woman with the most female brains being potentially truly bisexual. There seems to be evidence that brain sexuality is determined to a very large extent during the rapid growth phase of the brain during the embryonic state, and it depends on certain hormonal levels to which the child is exposed in its mother's womb. In fact, the brains of male homosexuals and female heterosexuals resemble each other much more than the brains of male homosexuals and male heterosexuals, both as far as their structure, e. g. the form and thickness of the corpus collosum, and the biochemical and bioelectric function is concerned. Like women, male homosexuals think more wholistically, i. e., to simplify it, they use their whole brain at the same time and not only half of it.

    Point is that male and female homosexuality cannot be compared with each other, and different standards should apply. Everything else would be egalitarian, anti-scientific nonsense.

    I find it cute to sexually arousing when two girls kiss, and most men feel that way. Blame it on nature.

    "People like to categorize us, label us, so they can frame their thinking about us. But sexuality is so complex," she says. "Everyone is different."
    Amen. (Milesian, don't!)
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    Post Re: Teen girls discovering 'bisexual chic' trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Tryggvi
    Amen. (Milesian, don't!)

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