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    Ice-Age Ivory Flute found in German Cave

    BERLIN (Reuters) - A 35,000-year-old flute made from a woolly mammoth's ivory tusk has been unearthed in a German cave by archaeologists, says the University of Tuebingen.

    The flute, one of the oldest musical instruments discovered, was pieced together from 31 fragments found in a cave in the Swabian mountains in southwestern Germany, the university said on Friday.

    The mountains have yielded rich pickings in recent years, including ivory figurines, ornaments and other musical instruments. Archaeologists believe humans camped in the area in winter and spring.

    Mammoths, now extinct, were large elephant-like creatures with hairy coats and long, upcurved tusks. They lived during the Pleistocene period from 2 million to 11,000 years ago.

    The university said it planned to put the instrument on display in a museum in Stuttgart.

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    Wonder who made it? Upper Paleolithic Cro Magnon types or Neanderthal?
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    Reminds me of this find from Slovenia:
    http://www.webster.sk.ca/greenwich/fl-compl.htm

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    Really a european made this? I think they are mistaken, it must've been made by a asian or african and taken to europe. There is no way that a primitive european in prehistory could ever make something! :biggrin:

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    LOL! Surpise! When I saw the title of this thread and was about to click into it I thought "I wonder if some "Slav" will post that this is evidence of "Slavic Culture" on german soil and claim this finding for themselves." - And - VOILA - the Slovene is here insinuating just that with his link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Brandt
    LOL! Surpise! When I saw the title of this thread and was about to click into it I thought "I wonder if some "Slav" will post that this is evidence of "Slavic Culture" on german soil and claim this finding for themselves." - And - VOILA - the Slovene is here insinuating just that with his link.
    It was a Neanderthal flute found in Slovenia....not Cro-Magnon or some other modern type. And, even if it was the product of a modern, the ethno-linguistic distictions between Slavics and Germanics were still some 20-25,000 years in the making. There was no such insinuation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalonord
    It was a Neanderthal flute found in Slovenia....not Cro-Magnon or some other modern type. And, even if it was the product of a modern, the ethno-linguistic distictions between Slavics and Germanics were still some 20-25,000 years in the making. There was no such insinuation.
    Yeah. There were no Slavs in the time of Neanderthal Man. Some people just happen to be familiar with the archeological findings in their country and are able to contribute to such debates. Ah well, I guess someone is just jealous. There are some goofy people here at this forum.

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    More on the Flute found in Germany

    After the hunt, ice age man chilled out - with a flute

    Luke Harding in Berlin
    Friday December 17, 2004
    The Guardian


    He is better known for his hunting skills, but now it appears that ice age man did not merely chase prey - he was also fond of music.
    German archaeologists revealed yesterday that they had discovered one of the world's oldest musical instruments, a 35,000-year-old flute carved from the tusk of a now-extinct woolly mammoth.

    The flute was dug up in a cave in the Swabian mountains in south-western Germany, and pieced back together again from 31 fragments. Its discovery suggests that ice age man, who roamed across Europe during prehistoric times, had precocious aesthetic talents, and probably discovered music far earlier than previously assumed.

    The flute consisted of two different halves, probably glued together with birch resin. The identity of the maker is a mystery; scientists are also unclear about whether the flute's purpose was recreational or religious.

    "Ivory was the most beautiful material available back then," Nicholas Conard, an archaeologist at Tübingen University, told Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper yesterday. "It's a clear clue that music was extremely important."

    He added: "The flute is a technical masterpiece. Nothing like this from the Paleolithic era has been found until now."

    Archaeologist Friedrich Seeberger, who has reconstructed the instrument, said yesterday he had no doubt the flute was actually used 35,000 years ago. But he admitted that it was not easy to play: it has only three identifiable holes. "Small bone flutes are much easier," he said. "At the moment I'm finding the large ivory mammoth flute rather hard."

    The Swabian mountains have yielded rich pickings in recent years, including ivory figurines, ornaments and other musical instruments. Two smaller flutes made from swan bones have also been unearthed in the same site.

    Archaeologists believe humans camped in the area in winter and spring. The cave is one of several in the Ach Valley, close to modern-day Stuttgart. The cave complex appears to have been used for thousands of years, and is also littered with the bones of reindeer and bears.

    The once-plentiful mammoth was a large elephant-like creature with a hairy coat and long, upcurved tusks. Mammoths flourished during the Pleistocene period from 2m to 11,000 years ago, but then abruptly died out.

    The university said it would display the prehistoric flute in a museum in Stuttgart.

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