It's up to you but I don't think a little disagreement hurts. As it gives us an opportunity to strenghten our views.Originally Posted by Loki
It's up to you but I don't think a little disagreement hurts. As it gives us an opportunity to strenghten our views.
Nothing wrong with Eltsin and Putin, but Breznev or Lenin weren't Russians in the first place.
Russia is a big country and not inhabited by ethnic Russians only, the percentage of ethnic Russians is about the same as the percentage of whites in America, you wouldn't say that Collin Powell is a good representative of American nation, would you? The same with Russians.
Coon about Russians
The Great Russians of a special area lying partly in the Tambov, Penza, and Saratov Governments, who form a mesocephalic nucleus in the country half way between Moscow and the mouth of the Volga, have been subjected to a detailed study, which shows them to be essentially Nordic. A mean stature of 169 cm., a cephalic index just under 79, and a head length of 192 mm., indicate an initial resemblance to Nordics or brunet Mediterraneans. The auricular height mean of about 130 mm. is greater than that of Scandinavian Nordics, however, as are the bizygomatic of 140 mm. and the bigonial of 109 mm., while the minimum frontal of 105 mm. is more nearly Nordic than the other lateral dimensions. The face height, 125 mm., yields a facial index on the borderline of mesoprosopy and leptoprosopy; the nasal index, about 65, is derived from a mean nose length of 55 mm. and a breadth of nearly 36 mm.
Half of these Great Russians have wavy hair, the other half straight; the head hair is dark brown (Fischer #4-5) in 30 per cent of the series studied, and almost never black; it is medium brown (Fischer #6-10) in about 50 per cent, and light brown in most of the rest.* Rufosity is rare, but at the same time most of the blondism falls on the golden side. About 8 per cent have brown eyes, nearly 30 per cent light, and the rest mixed. Thus these tall, mesocephalic Great Russians are brown to dark brown-haired, and essentially mixed to light eyed.* Their facial features conform in most cases to a Nordic standard; the nasal profile is straight or wavy in over 65 per cent of the group, convex in 25 per cent, and concave in the 10 per cent that is left.
Individually as well as collectively, most of these men look Nordic in either a complete or a partial sense; others, in the minority, with concave, up-tilted noses and wide faces, approximate the forest type of incipiently mongoloid trend. The facial dimensions, with their accent on the heaviness of the mandible, diverge from a western European Nordic standard, but conform to that of the eastern Nordic type found skeletally among Scythians and in the Minussinsk kurgans; they also conform to a brunet Mediterranean type which we shall see in other regions bordering the Black Sea. The high vault, and the prevalence of brown hair in combination with light eyes, suggests a major survival of the Corded element so lacking elsewhere in most of eastern Europe; since the Slavs elsewhere have to a large extent lost this element, it seems likely that the people in question are the descendants of earlier Iranian inhabitants as much as of Slavic immigrants.
What Coon said about that special region is true for the WHOLE central and Western Russia, there is nothing special about this special region.
North Russians on the other hand show more UP admixture.
Russians and Karelians from Northern Russia (Russians being an overwhelming majority)
Russians from central-northwestern part (Novgorod area)
More from the same region
German school class versus Russian one (first one German, second - Russian). Russians are from Moscow.
You have a point there, of course not all Russians are Ethnic Russians. But concerning Yeltsin his eyes are quite slanted. His nose is snubbed. Not exactly Aryan traits. As for Putin nothing wrong with him. But he doesn't exactly resemble the fellow Comso posted. As the Pinnacle of Man.
Yeltsin's eyes are slanted because he is a chronical alcoholic, his nose is snubbed because it was twice broken. Anyway that's not the point, even an ethnic Russian can look Ladogan or have some Uralic admixture, but for every Russian looking like that I will find you a German who looks like Himmler, who isn't a pinnacle of creation either.
Of course not every Russian looks like Yeltsin nor does every German look like Himmler. But on average Germans come closer to the SS Officer posted by Cosmo.
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