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    Many people connect the idea of Nordish preservation with ideologies of Nazim and Fascism.

    Or rather they're trying to back Nazism and Fascism by the idea of Nordish preservation.

    However, those totalitarian collectivist ideologies (National SOCIALISM) have nothing to to with nature of Nordish folk.

    Nordish people always practised individualism and (military) democracy. Nordish folk was and remain to be Libertarian.

    Those who back Nazism and Fascism and other totalitarian ideologies shall go to China - there they'll find understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simeon
    Many people connect the idea of Nordish preservation with ideologies of Nazim and Fascism.

    Or rather they're trying to back Nazism and Fascism by the idea of Nordish preservation.

    However, those totalitarian collectivist ideologies (National SOCIALISM) have nothing to to with nature of Nordish folk.

    Nordish people always practised individualism and (military) democracy. Nordish folk was and remain to be Libertarian.

    Those who back Nazism and Fascism and other totalitarian ideologies shall go to China - there they'll find understanding.
    Where has the "libertarian" approach brought us (Europe) until today? You may not see the full effect where you are, but believe me, Western Europe is turning into a multi-racial cesspool, and total destruction is on the horizon. Nothing less than a strong approach will salvage the Nordish folk.

    If you think the Vikings of old were "libertarian" in their approaches toward their enemies, then I invite you to think again.

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    Where has the "libertarian" approach brought us (Europe) until today?
    It brought us to GREATNESS. It made us EUROPEANS. It will save EUROPE.

    You may not see the full effect where you are, but believe me, Western Europe is turning into a multi-racial cesspool, and total destruction is on the horizon. Nothing less than a strong approach will salvage the Nordish folk.
    What democracy has to do with "total destruction"?

    The total destruction is looming due to TOTALITARISM.

    All European countries are SOCIALISTIC, NOT DEMOCRATIC/LIBERTARIAN.

    For example, people can not vote in favor to limit immigration.

    Denmark and Norway are most democratic states and they limited immigration already. But Germany, France and the UK are not democratic. People's rights are limited.

    I say people shall determibe their future on their own. Our folk is not stupid. If it was possible to vote Russians would throw all undesired "aliens" out of the country.

    If you think the Vikings of old were "libertarian" in their approaches toward their enemies, then I invite you to think again.
    What does being "libertarian" have to do with treatment of "enemies"?

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    Liberal democracies have an abundance of individualism which has a negative effect. It's almost a law by now that they transform individualism into Everything can be turned into something negative, and in our liberal-hedonist western societies of the 20th century that happenes without doubt with the per se positive principle of freedom, just as Communism is the perversion of the idea of solidarity.

    There are also special and new challenges of our era, and it needs organisation, forming and shaping by the state in great modern industry states. We are not Palaeolithic hunter and gatherer societies nor Viking tribes, but for the saviour of our whole folks' future, for the savious of its racial-biological substance and its spirit, we may need highly modern forms and methods.

    NS was not "collectivist" in the sense of Communism. In "Mein Kampf" Hitler stresses the value and importance of the personality and mocks liberal-democratic systems and Communism who deny it. In my opinion it needs the settlement between the principle of personality and of community (Gemeinschaft): the individual with his free personality, but tight and strict emboddied in his community. In these times it is rather necessary to stress and repair the second one.
    I doubt that the mass of the German people felt themselves after 1933 less "free" than in Weimar or "enslaved" by Hitler. The Weimar state failed everywhere to organize the living and the future of the Germans, and after all the people themselves voted for its downfall in the early 30s.

    For example, people can not vote in favor to limit immigration.

    Denmark and Norway are most democratic states and they limited immigration already. But Germany, France and the UK are not democratic. People's rights are limited.

    I say people shall determibe their future on their own. Our folk is not stupid. If it was possible to vote Russians would throw all undesired "aliens" out of the country.
    Theoretically yes, but the public "opinion" of the people in our western states has much to do with what the mass media tell them to be their opinion. Their opinion is highly produced by the tabloids' opinion. The ideology of the "common man" is not the same today than it was in 1950 or 1930, and the degree of multi-cultural brainwashing and decadence is quite high. Maybe they would beat up today in Moscow "Christopher Street Day" parades, but in Berlin and London "the folk" certainly is "tolerant" against such moral decadency, and maybe in 20 years it also will be in Russia.

    People in Western European states are probably despite all still aware enough for voting in their majority for the limiting immigration, but they would probably also vote for keeping those immigrants, who are already here and "integrated", in the country, simply because they don't want riots on the streets. But alone keeping those immigrants here, who are already here, is the destruction of our people.
    Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.

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    Theoretically yes, but the public "opinion" of the people in our western states has much to do with what the mass media tell them to be their opinion.
    That's why I say that Europe is not Democratic and Libertarian anymore.

    People in Western European states are probably despite all still aware enough for voting in their majority for the limiting immigration,
    I'm glad you're of higher opinion of your compatriots that some other posters.

    but they would probably also vote for keeping those immigrants, who are already here and "integrated", in the country, simply because they don't want riots on the streets. But alone keeping those immigrants here, who are already here, is the destruction of our people.
    Keeping immigrants is not a problem.

    They have come to make dirty work, so why make them leave in the first place? Will you be cleansing toilettes?

    If an European wants to have a mixed family - I don't mind.

    I prefer to support those Europeans who want to have homogenous families, not limit their rights and freedoms.

    So those who want to preserve they "heritage" will be able to do it, those who don't want to preserve their heritage - I don't care for them.

    Everybody happy.

    It's the only way to achieve preservation, as measures proposed by some racist people won't be accepted and work. In fact that's what anti-preservation people want to hear: calls to re-install Fascism... such calls allow them to keep mass media and government under control.

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    No wonder they banned you!

    I'm with Nordgau on this one. National Socialism signifies the pinnacle of white nationalism and (from first hand experience) the only hope we as whites have.

    National Socialism signifies true brotherhood, not the pie-in-the-sky equality Marxism or Democracy promises.

    Even as early back as the days of Plato, men like Plato and Socrates saw democracy as something to be avoided.

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    The Order of the Wolf

    It's not ironic that the Great Man was known by many as "Onkel Wolf."

    National Socialism is the Order of the Wolf applied to humans. As the wolf has always been a totem animal in the Northlands, mimicking the wolf's "governmental structure" is entirely natural. Most Aryans, at least those with healthy instincts, feel a spiritual kinship with the wolf. I know I do...that's probably why both Hitler and I love(d) the Alsatian most of all dogs.

    Following the Alpha Male who has proven his ability is the Leadership Principle in action.

    It is no surprise that extreme "individualism" is preached by Jewesses like Ayn Rand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkona
    Many people connect the idea of Nordish preservation with ideologies of Nazim and Fascism.

    Or rather they're trying to back Nazism and Fascism by the idea of Nordish preservation.

    However, those totalitarian collectivist ideologies (National SOCIALISM) have nothing to to with nature of Nordish folk.

    Nordish people always practised individualism and (military) democracy. Nordish folk was and remain to be Libertarian.

    Those who back Nazism and Fascism and other totalitarian ideologies shall go to China - there they'll find understanding.
    I'm not a National Socialist -- not because there is anything wrong with the ideology as such, but rather out of political necessity (because most Nordish people do not understand NS and have been indoctrinated to think of it as something unspeakably evil).

    But you are wrong in saying that Nordish folk are, or have been, highly individualist. Yes, individual freedom is highly valued by the Nordish peoples, as it should be, but until recently individualism has never been allowed to go so far as to harm the wellbeing of the entire community. Libertarianism basically allows people to pursue whatever benefit they choose, even if it harms society at large. This has always been frowned upon in the past, and it will be so again in the future.

    Northern peoples have always focused on cooperation rather than competition -- simply because in our climates it produced better results. There are some studies that suggest that our solidarity for others of our kin may be genetic. Call it socialism, call it what you will, but it is by far better than an anarchic society based on nihilism and free-for-all competition that pits every person against everyone else.

    I am 100% sure that our NS members do not support a Chinese style totalitarian regime. Nordish people would not tolerate it -- we are too intelligent and independent for that. Totalitarian regimes require blind obedience from the masses, as well as acceptance of things which everyday experience proves are complete nonsense. Granted, multikultis operate in the same manner and they have been enjoying reasonable success in the past decades, but that is quickly coming to an end now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegUmJedenPreis
    No wonder they banned you!

    I'm with Nordgau on this one. National Socialism signifies the pinnacle of white nationalism and (from first hand experience) the only hope we as whites have.

    National Socialism signifies true brotherhood, not the pie-in-the-sky equality Marxism or Democracy promises.

    Even as early back as the days of Plato, men like Plato and Socrates saw democracy as something to be avoided.
    Nazism was probably responsible for the deaths of more White people than any other political movement in history. What it did, and still does, to Germany alone should be enough of a reason to never want to bring it back in any shape or form. You might swallow all that pseudo-scientific 'Aryan master race' rubbish but I'm proud to say that my grandparents fought against what it really was; unreconstructed Prussian militarism.

    I can only assume that the Luftwaffe pilots that tried to kill my mother obviously missed their daily briefing on 'Aryan brotherhood'. As they did again when they killed her best childhood friend.

    As for modern Neo-Nazis, they are largely just a ridiculous pantomime for sexual perverts and bedsit weirdoes. Anyone who seriously advocates those beliefs in my country is either engaging in outright provocation or lacking in any political sophistication whatsoever. Either way, they do irrevocable damage to the serious project of Nordid racial preservation.

    Sorry, if this sounds harsh but I really can't stand Neo-Nazis. I have never met one who wasn't some sort of serious social misfit. And it was largely thanks to idiots like Tyndall and Webster that a legitimate nationalist movement in the UK was destroyed during the late 1970s and ended up goosestepping down a political cul de sac. But then again maybe this just proves Hitler was right when he said "National Socialism is not for export."

    I fully understand why millions of Germans supported Hitler in '33 and I do have certain sympathies for the tens of thousands of young German comrades struggling against state oppression today. But I really think we need to articulate a new political language to confront the challenges we face today, not just regurgitate old slogans from over half a century ago. Least of all slogans that, to many Europeans, just conjure up images of death, national humiliation and destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkona
    Many people connect the idea of Nordish preservation with ideologies of Nazim and Fascism.

    Or rather they're trying to back Nazism and Fascism by the idea of Nordish preservation.

    However, those totalitarian collectivist ideologies (National SOCIALISM) have nothing to to with nature of Nordish folk.

    Nordish people always practised individualism and (military) democracy. Nordish folk was and remain to be Libertarian.

    Those who back Nazism and Fascism and other totalitarian ideologies shall go to China - there they'll find understanding.
    Dear sir,

    I must say I disagree with you on some things. Indeed many people connect the idea of Nordish preservation with ideologies of National Socialism and Fascism. You state that NS (wich you call totalitarian collectivist) has nothing to do with the nature of Nordish folk. I think you are wrong.

    If we think about National Socialism and the Third reich and compare it with our the worldview of our (my) forfathers we should be able to see many similar things.

    Now, we must first ask ourselves, what is the nature of National Socialism and what is the nature of the nordish folk?

    When I think about the nature of my nordish ancestors, the follwing things come to mind: Explorers and valiant conquerors who fight for their people, dont mind for good or evil, kill anyone and anything that stands in their way. Honour, glory and a great will, character my nordic forfathers in my mind.

    Then there are the National Socialists: Explorers and valiant conquerors who believe in their people and who are not afraid of fighting for their people. They kill their enemies without hesitation and dont care for good or evil. They fight for honour, glory and worship the triumpth of the will, the triumph of the Aryan folk.

    In my mind National Socialism has a lot to do with the nature of the nordish folk. Since National Socialism is a life affirming creed built on the laws of nature, where the strong survive and the weak perish. National Socialism affirms that the purpose of life is contributing to evolution in a positive way and that we contribute to evolution when we do our duty to our folk, since our folk (our race and culture) is our connection to Nature: how Nature is manifest in us as human beings!

    National Socialism sees the nation, the folk, as a living organism, a body. And National Socialisms wants that body to be healthy. National Socialism wants to strengthen the body, make if more fit and greater.

    The so called totalitarian aspect of National Socialims is nessecary in this day and age. The modern, liberal-democratic world is a degenerate place of great caos and confusion. National Socialism seeks to make order out of this caos, to unite all Aryan peoples, to strengthen the Aryan people and make them stronger. Such goals can only be won with strong leadership, leadership of the natrual leaders. Not voted corrput democratic leaders, not plutocratic or beurocractic leaders but; fascist, imperial, philosopher-kings - wich will unite aryan man against his enemy and crush those who resist! Building a New Aryan Empire, a new western world from the ashes of the fallen corrupt democratic caos.

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    A culture is manifest in a folk community: in a homeland where that folk dwell and to which that folk have or feel a special attachment. National-Socialism believes that it is natural and necessary for individuals to have a real sense of belonging and identity: to have roots in a particular land which they value and respect as the home of their ancestors and thus of their own culture. National-Socialism is Aryan culture. - David Myatt
    "I have reached these lands but newly
    From an ultimate dim Thule
    From a wild weird clime, that lieth, sublime,
    Out of SPACE — out of TIME
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    Edgar Allan Poe


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