View Poll Results: Which is preferable for assimilation?

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  • Atlanto-Meds

    59 46.46%
  • Ponto-Meds

    21 16.54%
  • Both equally assimilable

    47 37.01%
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    Post Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    The idea that just because a Brit is Atlanto-Med in phenotype and subrace means he's going to be genetically the same as a Basque is ridiculous. I too am interested in seeing that link.

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    Post Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    From what I remember, the phenotype wasn't even in question, just DNA.
    I'll post the link as soon as I can.

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    Post Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    I must concur with our friend AWAR that Greece does have an advantage over Slovenia due to its tourism and politics (EU vs. recovery from the Yugoslavian Socialism). Nonetheless, I am not looking forward to the EU, into which we will be admitted in a few months.

    In terms of economy and wealth, I assumed that we have already surpassed the Greeks a while ago. Might I be mistaken? The standard of living is no worse than in the countries of the EU I visited - Northern Italy, Austria and Germany - with one difference. While the income is nearly twice as low, the expenses are much lower, too. Oh well, come and see for yourself (and drop me a PM, so we can chat about it over a glass of drink ; ) ).
    Since you mention expenses compared probably to prices check the CIA Factbook which gives Slovenia approx. 19,000 ppp (purchasing power parity). By the way,Greece may official appear to have equal ppp to Slovenia but we have a major major side economy which adds another 40-50% to our actual national income.And this phenomenon is observed in such a size only in Greece and Italy.That means that the average Greek adds to his official 19,000 ppp$ another 7,600 to 9,500. I don't know about Slovenia but in Greece the average family has more than one car,80% live in a house owned by them etc etc .The most impressive is that we at the same time have to maintain a huge defence budget because of the turkish military threat .Having visited most of Europe I can freely say that only Scandinavians (mostly thanks to their prosperous social system) seem to have in general higher living standards than Greeks. If someone in EU is miserable that is certainly not Greece.

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    Post Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    Official figures are more often than not misleading.

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    Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Slayer View Post
    You believe in Greek superiority, then. Well I would have agreed with you in the heydays of Sparta & Athens, and the empire of Alexander - but not today. If the Greeks are so very superior, then why are they (besides Portugal) the poorest and most miserable nation in the EU? Could it be that those British untermenschen of yours have given them a raw deal? Even Slovenia is set to overtake Greece in prosperity ratings very soon.
    Lol! Since when is the economic prosperity a proof of superiority?! It's rather vice versa!

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    Re: Atlanto-Meds or Pontid Meds?

    Ok I voted both but only if nordids still breed together while breeding with these meds thus eventualy breeding them out of europe and re-establishing a nordic continental europe and nordic "british" isles.

    Outbreeding is my favorite part of germanic preservation!

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    there both europids its because of crap like this that the nazi's lost, all europeans should defend each other , imagine a europe that was for europeans instead of letting immigrants from non white countries work help the fellow Slavs out, i rather have a pole working in my country than a dirty turk!

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    Atlanto-Meds are native to parts of the Germanic world. Pontids are native to the Black Sea and the Goths must have acquired some of their blood. The looks are bred out of Germanic speakers today however. It would be nice to know the race of the late Goths in Theodoro.

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    Pontids and Atlanto-Meds are from the same stock, only the enviroment causes the differences, Atlanto-Meds have CM influence average, the Pontids have Baltid or Mongolid influence average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    It would be nice to know the race of the late Goths in Theodoro.
    For what it's worth, these are the words of Ogier Ghiselin de Busbecq, the Flemish ambassador of the Holy Roman Empire to the Ottoman court in the late 16th century:

    "I cannot here omit what I learnt about a tribe which still dwells in the Crimea, which I had often heard showed traces of a German origin in their language, customs and lastly in their face and habit of body.
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    One of them was about the middle height and had an air of superior breeding - you might have taken him for a Fleming or Batavian, the other was shorter, more strongly built and of a dark complexion, being by birth and language a Greek."

    So apparently there were still traces left of their northern origin. Also interesting how much of their Germanic vocabulary had apparently survived for more than a thousand years. There are many examples given in the link.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post
    Pontids and Atlanto-Meds are from the same stock, only the enviroment causes the differences, Atlanto-Meds have CM influence average, the Pontids have Baltid or Mongolid influence average.
    That kind of mixing would be true of any given population in these areas and not restricted to these subraces. So that's not a defining feature.
    By definition both subraces are just equally "pure" taller and somewhat more muscular variants of the standard Mediterranid type caused by, as you said, natural environmental differences.
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