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    Post Re: The Eddas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ullr
    Are we the only ones who know about Northvegr?
    I know about Northvegr BUT the wealth of information there on that website and translations of texts cannot be ignored. Use it for what it is, a resource. That is all personal opinion though, just dont see why one would rob themselfs of something that could help better their understanding of the lore because of something they heard about the two people who run it.
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    Poetic and Prose Eddas

    I have been fascinated with Nordic mythology for quite a while now, and I have recently discovered about the Poetic and Prose Eddas. I am quite new to this specific type of literature, so be kind to me, please .

    Anyways, after searching the net for these two books, I have found out that many editions are for sale - but which versions would you recommend?

    Once again, I would like to buy both books, but I would need a helping hand to guide me towards the best selection to make.


    Thanks for your time.

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    Re: Poetic and Prose Eddas

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Volsung
    the Poetic and Prose Eddas...
    Anyways, after searching the net for these two books, I have found out that many editions are for sale - but which versions would you recommend?
    The Hollander translation of the Poetic Edda is very good, and is recommended by most today.
    It's good because Hollander has a good turn of poetic phrase, often using semi-archaic English to render the original in an alliterative style.

    http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/books/holpoe.html


    The book The Masks of Odin, by Titchenell, has less good translations of the Poetic Edda, but actually has some good interpretations of the texts.
    Here's an online version;
    http://theosociety.org/pasadena/odin/odin-hp.htm


    I have the standard Everyman edition of the Prose Edda, translated by Anthony Faulkes - there may be better ones of that.
    I see Northvegr recommend that too. This link gives their various recommendations for these vital texts;
    http://www.northvegr.org/northern/book/bibliography.php
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    Re: The Eddas

    Don't trust people who are called Ari. Especially if they run Northvegr. Their fairy-tales are very good; and their site offers plenty of valuable information, but they themselves are apparently not the pleasant sort.

    You may like their articles on their page, some of them are very well present; but just whatever you do, remember, do not do business with the people who run it.

    Here's a few Links concerning the Northvegr case as heard at the Lögretta (A Vinlandic Heathen lawspeaking body):
    http://web.archive.org/web/200503080...etta.org/3.htm
    http://web.archive.org/web/200503081...orthvegr/3.htm

    PS: Pardon, the actual case seems to be no longer up; anyway, they were finally outlawed from the Heathen community, being found guilty of several charges of larceny, and slander.

    So, again, trust the information on Northvegr - but NOT THE PEOPLE!

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    Re: The Eddas

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    That case seems incompetent.
    The charge is ambigous with no direct accusation, statements, evidence, times, dates.
    It seems more like a dislike of.
    In a court of law, they would defend themselves, not someone else. Without there testimony, the decision of the "court" is invalid. It is valid for those who give them power.
    From looking at the members of the assembly, they seem to be the "average joe". Meaning. It is more of a rabble court where the medocre masses banish from them who are their betters. That is, who they do not like. I debated many years ago many of them and they did not like me because I made them look stupid. I would debate them theologically and they would look stupid and flame on me to save face.

    I would look at each case (what there are of them and make my own decision). In this case, there is no case.

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    I too have studied the Hollander text (The Poetic Edda) for many years ... an interesting and convincing translation with many invaluable comments and insights. A learned man; published originally in 1962 by the University of Texas (!!) . At times, the Eddaic narrative is confused and overlapping ; it is very helpful to try and understand what the reading might be saying..... especially in the earlier sections.....


    I would however want to add that Henry Adams BELLOWS version of the Poetic Edda is also extremely valuable - since some of his alternative arrangements make for greater clarity of the narrative and therefore the meaning. He again supplies invaluable insights and explanations of the original Text. Originally published in 1923 by the American Scandinavian Foundation.

    This original text-compilation surely is the early basis for much subsequent writing.... it is one we know about. Many others texts are , one must assume , now lost.

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    I'll have to agree with the gentlemen here and admit to being quite fond of the Hollander translation. Sometimes I'll take a look at the Larrington edition, just to clarify a passage or two, but nothing can replace the archaic majesty of Hollander. His text, I find, is especially appropriate when Eddic verses are called for in ritual settings.
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    Ha yes. I was looking again at the Larrington edition recently but really, the language is a disappointment. I am not quite sure what she was doing. All texts are likely to of some value - but the masterful ones tend to shine. How different it seems to have been in Germany, where there were ( are?) many translations .... from the Grimm's onwards. A rich heritage.

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    There is a lot available online that are a better translation. I generally say avoid the Hollander translations. The Hollander translation can be bought in just about any bookstore so it is popular by proxy of being everywhere. He is more interested in making it sound good than providing an accurate portrayal of what is being said. He also seems to be partial to his own biases and will interpolate without citation which is a huge no-no.

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    Interesting - so which texts would you suggest from your own internet experience? Worth remembering that the Hollander was a fairly early publication. Nothing is perfect

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