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Thread: The Neo-Danubian Race (for Jakub)

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankfurter
    These features can also be seen among some people in neighboring parts of eastern Poland and the northern Ukraine, as well as occasionally among Slovaks, Slovenians, east-central Germans, and occasionally among other Slavic groups, Hungarians and Romanians.
    I really wonder where you saw those.

    *Gorostan removes the blindfold he was wearing for the last 20 years*

    Whoaaa, colours... :O
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajatar
    Hmm... Define small-grown, please...
    Savolaxtypen. Rätt småvuxen (c. 166 cm.), huvudet svagt kortskalligt (BLI c. 81-82) men dess mer högt (HLI c. 77) (A I 80-85); ansiktet brett men ej stort; näsan kort och bred, mindre spetsig än hos föregående. Mest blond, fast håret väl ofta går i något mörkare cendré än hos föregående typ. Utbredning: öster om föregående inåt Ryssland, och söder ut mot Karpaterna.

    The Savolax type. Rather small of stature (approximately 166 cm.), the head is weakly short-skulled (BLI approximately 81-82), but all the more high (HLI approximately 77) (FI 80-85); the face is broad but not big, the nose is short and broad, less sharp than the former. Mostly blonde, altough the hair often transcends into a somewhat darker ash-blonde than the former type. Distribution : east of the former towards Russia, and southwards towards the Carpathians.
    Lundman, Bertil (1939). Nordens rastyper.

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    Niilo Pesonen on The Savolax region
    Pesonen's study on Savolax was published in 1937. For this study 595 men between the ages 25-49 and 376 women between the ages 20-49 had been studied. They were from all over Savolax from Kiuruvesi to Lappeenranta. Average height of men was 167,4cm and women 154,53cm. The tallest men (168,06cm avg) were found in the area consisting Joroinen and Mikkeli, the shortest were found south of this area in the Savonlinnna region (165,8cm). This region also had the shortest women (152,26cm) whereas the tallest women were found south of this area (155,78cm). The cephalic index of men averaged at 81,109 and it was largest in the areas of Kuopia and Mikkeli (81,281; 81,232). More than 3/4 were mesocephalic and brachycephalic (both 39,2%). The average cephalic index of women was 81,504

    Out of men 44,5% had a wide-face, medium-faced 21,6%. The widest faces were found in Southern Savolax and around the Kuopio region. The most narrow faces were found in the Mikkeli region (half of the measured induviduals). Narrow noses were found among half of the men and extremely narrow noses among 10%. In women the numbers of narrow noses were even higher (59,1%, 10,3%) The population of the Savolax region was mainly blond. Around 87% of men had light-eyes, brown eyes were found among 9%. Again there were more brown-eyes among the women (17,4%) However brown-eyed men were found in Northern Savolax more often than normally (23,1%) Extremely blond hair was rare among men (3,2%), however dark-blond hair was found in 46,2%. Very dark hair was found in 20% of men. Over half of the measured women had brown or darker toned hair.

    As in Satakunta, the tallest induviduals of the Savolax region were not the blondest. However shorter men were on average a bit darker than tall men. Tall women more often had brown eyes than short women (40% and 20%). The same goes for hair colour. Brown hair was more common among tall induviduals. The dolichocephalic men were more often brown-eyed than other groups, however dark hair was more frequent among those who were brachycephalic (18,2%). Dark-brown or brown was found among 45% of the brachycephalic induviduals. The rest mainly had blond/light hair (half of the measured induviduals). Majority of men had light coloured eyes. It was noted that the short, brachycephalic induviduals couldn't have gotten their height and short skull through Sami-influence because of blondism. Among women brachycephalics more often seemed to have brown eyes. However the small statured people with brown eyes and dark hair might indeed be a Sami-trait, however these features were not a frequent phenomenon among the induviduals. However dark hair was more common than expected among tall men with dolichocephalic skulls, which lead the research to conclude that other "dark" influence was present and it was not Lapponoid.
    Pesonen paid a lot of (too much perhaps) attention on pigmentation. I wonder what his idea of the other "dark influence" was. : I believe the reason he rules out Sami-influence was the lack of Sami-characteristics in dark induviduals (height and facial features). Sorry, going OT.

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