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    Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    This is a lot more detailed than Y-chromosome studies, because it takes into account multiple markers and reflects the genes from both parents.

    If you want to see more samples, and a explination of this system, please visit their website...



    P.S. Should probably be a sticky...

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    This is a lot more detailed than Y-chromosome studies, because it takes into account multiple markers and reflects the genes from both parents.
    The names of the different 'coloured slices' of the pie chart seem to reflect the Y chromosome haplotypes though.
    "Western European" will be R1b,
    "Eastern European" - R1a,
    "North African" - E3b,
    "Arabian" - J,
    etc.

    THere's nothing new here, it's just the same stuff but with simplified terminology.

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    The names of the different 'coloured slices' of the pie chart seem to reflect the Y chromosome haplotypes though.
    "Western European" will be R1b,
    "Eastern European" - R1a,
    "North African" - E3b,
    "Arabian" - J,
    etc.

    THere's nothing new here, it's just the same stuff but with simplified terminology.
    No, this test is not sex biased.

    The 26 markers come from both parents. So it reflects Y-chromosome data to an extent, but not fully.

    R1b is not seen in Southeast Poland at 38.5%.

    The more markers you use, the more different things look. With over 400 markers there's little correlation with Y-chromosome data.

    http://genetics.plosjournals.org/per....0020143-L.pdf

    http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7...clustrzbj7.jpg

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    The names of the different 'coloured slices' of the pie chart seem to reflect the Y chromosome haplotypes though.
    "Western European" will be R1b,
    "Eastern European" - R1a,
    "North African" - E3b,
    "Arabian" - J,
    etc.

    THere's nothing new here, it's just the same stuff but with simplified terminology.
    If I understood correctly, in this test you get results like "your genetic profile shows you are 50% Western European, 25% Eastern European, 20% Mediterranean and 5% other". Or a list of countries/regions where your genetic profile is most common. A haplogroup test only tells your haplogroup and will place a fair slice of Europeans into North-Africa and Middle-East.

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    For customers interested in comparing our results with Y chromosomal studies, this percentage data provides information more suitable for a direct comparison. Our observations using a statistical approach to autosomal loci corroborate some previous observations. For instance, we observe a distinctive Western European pattern with its maximum in the historically Celtic-speaking areas of Britain (Strathclyde, Scotland in our present dataset) that corresponds closely to the observed maximum of Y chromosomal haplogroup R1b in the same region. However, the advantage of an analysis using autosomal loci is that results are not susceptible to distortion created by sex-biased gene flow, but instead reflect and quantify genetic signals transmitted along both maternal and paternal lines.
    Honestly, people really need to get over the Y-chromosome charts. They're simple to understand, but aren't really very informative. Their scope is limited to the paternal side and only one marker.

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    Honestly, people really need to get over the Y-chromosome charts. They're simple to understand, but aren't really very informative. Their scope is limited to the paternal side and only one marker.
    Well they are useful at a collective level, for example to see the average origin of a whole country or region, but I agree that at an individual level are quite useless.
    Autosomal DNA affiliations seem to be very interesting.

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    If you want to see more samples, and a explination of this system, please visit their website...
    www.dnatribes.com ?

    You didn't spell it out for us!

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Did these tests include contemporary immigrant populations or were they restricted to the indigenous population? I notice Germans have an average of 8.4% Asia Minor ancestry. Could this be because of the Turkish minority in Germany?

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    Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Yes, otherwise, if going only by vernacular populations, it would be a rather startling detail, that 2,6% of Strathclyde-jocks were Sub-Saharan Africans. Great topic, by the way. Requires stickification, methinks. Interesting, that the amount of East-European in Germany is sizeable and far beyond, what I believed was the quantum. The Polish finally our brethren, genetically; god beware
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    AW: Re: Autosomal DNA affiliations of various populations

    Quote Originally Posted by Q. View Post
    Interesting, that the amount of East-European in Germany is sizeable and far beyond, what I believed was the quantum.
    Not to forget about all these Slavic Italians and Portuguese...
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