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    Classify: Keltic-Nordid, Dalo-Falid?

    Can any of you give me a good description of the distinguishing charcteristics of the Keltic Nordic type? It seems that I get conflicting features everywhere I look. Can you just tell me straight out, what are the most prominent features of the Keltic Nordid type, and if anyone can, also I would like to know more about the Dalo-Falid type and how these two differ from one another.

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    Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    Click the nordish gallery.Theres all info you need to know from these types.

    http://www.snpa.skadi.net/index2.htm


    Simply said,keltic-nordid is intermediate form of norid and nordid so pred halstatt with minor dinarid influences.

    Additionally, the Keltic Nordid has mixed with Atlanto-Mediterranid (cf. North-Atlantid), the latter of which is probably present at a low level in the Keltic Nordid population as a whole.

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    Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    Keltic Iron Age Type: The Keltic sub-type, mesocephalic and low-vaulted, with a prominent nose. Commonest in the British Isles where in places it forms the principal element in the population. Also a major element in Flanders and the Frankish country in southwestern Germany.

    http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/chapter-VIII6.htm

    A short description of Keltic Nordic taken from Carleton Coon in The Races of Europe, 1939:

    Medium-sized mesocephalic skull, low vault, strongly (exaggeratedly) sloping forehead, a cylindrical lateral vault profile, pinched face, a long, narrow, prominent nose, and a relatively small lower facial segment. A long upper face in proportion to the total face. Broad jaw at the gonial angles, but is not as deep as other Iron Age Nordics. The mandible is relatively shallow.

    Coon also compared the the Upper Palaeolithic men with the Iron Age Keltic people of Ireland.

    "In contrast to this type, the Iron Age Keltic people were slightly shorter, and usually slender in bodily build, with finer bones; they were narrower in head and face diameters, with a more retreating forehead, a higher-bridged, more convex-profiled nose with a thin, less frequently everted tip; the mouth was smaller, and the mandible much shallower and narrower, the chin of more moderate dimensions. The hair was straight or wavy, brown or light brown in color, and the eyes typically blue."

    http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/chapter-X2.htm

    You should also read
    http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/chapter-VI3.htm
    http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/chapter-XII3.htm

    Plate with Keltic Nordics (the only ones I know of):

    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet.../texts/p29.htm

    Coon changed his terminology in later works. He spoke of regional variations and tendencies and not racial types.

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    Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    Another SNPA interpretation or guess? Coon did not even use the term North-Atlantid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannerheim View Post

    Additionally, the Keltic Nordid has mixed with Atlanto-Mediterranid (cf. North-Atlantid), the latter of which is probably present at a low level in the Keltic Nordid population as a whole.

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    Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenlivet View Post
    Another SNPA interpretation or guess? Coon did not even use the term North-Atlantid.
    guess

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    Re: AW: Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    Quote Originally Posted by Pervitinist View Post
    In practice the differences between an untypically Nordoid Austrian Norid and an untypically Dinaroid British Keltic are so subtle that one might suspect that they are rooted more in environmental factors like food and climate than in racial features.
    Norids are planocciptal. Given that Keltic is a common type in England where I live, flattened occiputs are rare to non-existent, found on Serbs or other tourists.

    The Keltic Edward Norton:



    The Keltic Jean Rochefort:



    And you cannot deny the existence of the Irish Keltic Aran type.

    Saying that Nordid+Dinarid=Keltic is like saying Baltid+Tungid=Lapp.

    You need to consider re-selection and further acclimatisation of that stabilised mix, with more re-selection on top of that, carrying on into infinity (or at least modern times).

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    Re: AW: Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    I do not mean anything. That is Coon's writing.

    I gave the link to the source. Go here http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/chapter-VIII6.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by Pervitinist View Post
    You mean southeastern (Franconia)?

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    Re: AW: Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    I agree with you. There are some basic tendencies throughout Europe with some local specialisations which makes a Balkan Dinarid slightly different from a French Dinarid*. Environmental factors as well as coiffure and clothes may influence our view.

    *An Albanian gendarme from Puka, in the center of the Gheg country. This individual, like many Albanians when dressed and coiffured in western European style, looks like a Frenchman.

    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet.../texts/p39.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by Pervitinist View Post

    In practice the differences between an untypically Nordoid Austrian Norid and an untypically Dinaroid British Keltic are so subtle that one might suspect that they are rooted more in environmental factors like food and climate than in racial features.

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    Re: AW: Re: Keltic-Nordid,Dalo-Falid,please describe

    This is partly because of cradling. Coon was clear about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon View Post
    flattened occiputs are rare to non-existent, found on Serbs or other tourists.

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