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    I believe that more income is needed for today's families and it can take both parents as providers. I don't think that a woman is physically and mentally fit enough to return to work straight after having a baby because of post natal depression and for wanting to spend time wit her child. So for myself I've not worked since having my daughter and when she starts school then I'll follow work. My husband works full time and I just don't think it's quite enough. I have a career that I can do from home and it's easy but also hard. People like to condemn women for working and bringing home the bacon when their husbands are lazy and don't have jobs. I've seen a few families like that.

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    I am a stay at home mom of two. I think that this is probably the best solution but it is not best for every family. Some of the arrangements of friends of mine are: the Mom works until 5pm and the father 9p-5a , two wonderful girls;the mom works and the dad stays at home(he was an electrician but his knees went bad), three great kids. Both families own their homes and have good large gardens.

    I think that once children are in the picture that both parents need to consider them first. Not 'Junior gets what Junior wants' but what is best short and long term. A stay at home mother working a job or charity part time may be necessary for her sanity and mental acuity as much as for income.
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    First of all women have always been in the work force despite the BS that comes from Feminist, about them not. Women were working in Textile factories as far back as the 1700's.

    The only Time I know of that women did not have to work was post WW2, 1950's in the USA. And that was mostly because of the Automation and great influx of science into the production of everything from food to automobiles.

    The reality is though that this Goldilocks period did not last, and for many reasons. The rise of social unrest movements like the civil rights movement, politically extremist socialist hippies , and other such nonsense pretty much destroyed any hopes of having a real rise into a true space age society.

    From here on out it seems we are destined to have more PC Garbage such as you see from people like Barack Obama.

    Im not married, so I don’t have a wife or children to worry about. But if I were I would not have a problem with her working.

    But the bottom line is the World Governments are playing a scam game, with the fiat money system, and that is a game that you as a family can’t win. They print more money and expect you to work harder to get it. That is a lose/lose for consumers.

    Having a Stay at home Mom offers a good opportunity to have her open a cottage industry. Even better if you could raise some of your own food, or make some of your own clothes that gets you out of to some degree, of dependency on the global market system.

    The best of all situations is to have like minded communities of people and engage in a type of barter system, that is a Win/Win for you and your neighbors, because the Globalist get none of the profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    It is quite easy, the priority should be children, if a woman has time for work besides that, she can work, if not then not.

    Men who can't provide for a family should not procreate, at least in a healthy society.

    I know in ancient times (like 50 years ago ) when someone wanted to marry a woman, the father usually inspected if the man was suitable for his daughter, and the first question he would ask would be "Can you provide for a family".
    Doch- My Grandmother was the one that made that question to my Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    Doch- My Grandmother was the one that made that question to my Father.
    I said usually, if a woman is sane enough to pose that question by herself, kudos to her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    Doch- My Grandmother was the one that made that question to my Father.
    Go grandma!

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    I am a mother, so it's obvious what comes first for me. My job is only for the purpose of financially providing for my son. I am not interested in becoming 'big', just in making enough money to be able to buy my son what he needs. Truthfully I'd like to be a stay at home mother, but it wasn't meant to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nätdeutsch View Post
    children are a career.

    if you value climbing the corporate ladder more than raising good children, your priorities are screwed up and society is doomed.

    I totally agree with this. Too many women are so focused on their career that they forget the child at home who is languishing alone without the good proper guidance and care of a mother.

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    I agree that women have it tough in this day and age. If I get married I still expect my wife to work because otherwise we wouldn't be able to afford a home from which to raise children in.

    Alas this is not something I would blame on women's rights or feminism. I think the symptoms are the result of something greater, explicitly the discrepancy of wealth since the 1950's.

    In the past, it was possible for a man to work for a factory's salary, and have the wife stay at home, raise the children and organize the community, and families were able to go on that four week vacation in the summertime.

    Things have changed a lot since then. When I was working in an industrial steel and glazing factory, and if I was living alone, almost 50% of my salary would had gone towards an apartment in a safe neighbor (multiculturalism has made significant portions of my city off-limits to whites) and I would have to scrounged a lot if I was supporting a wife and children.


    It reminds me of the chapter in 1984... Where the government goes to significant lengths to demonize the past... The 1950's are remembered exclusively as a time where men beat their wives, everyone was an obedient Christian, a racist, hated blacks, et al.
    Likewise, the Medieval Period is remembered in much a similar fashion, being a time of plague, slavery (serfdom) and insecurity.

    But in reality, the Medieval Peasant was very free (in fact most were encouraged to own weapons) and a lot of the peasant dresses of Medieval Europe were very rich in colors and fashionable.


    But the fact was that the past offered a lot more freedom for a man. It was possible in the age of Imperialism for a man to make his fortune. Join the British Trading Company and strike his fortunes in Africa and the Middle East. Go to the New World and and get 400 acres of farmland for $200 dollars (in contrast families were farming plots of less than 5 acres back in Europe!).


    The only thing superior about our contemporary life is technology... the internet... computers... video games... But take that away and one comes to the realization that we are an oppressed people - we live in a soft totalitarian society.

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    For me. the question is: Why have the child in the first place if it is really a career you'd be focusing on.

    I can truly sympathize with young mothers today that are left to care for their children alone. I had a beautiful son by a wonderful German father who valued traditional homelife. After his fatal car accident, I was thrown (forced) into not only caring for my son but providing for him. No government agency took care of us!
    Most women today that find themselves in this position will compromise the child's well being to get gov. help. In the USA, that help comes with too high a price.
    I raised my son for 5 years alone, then remarried and stayed at home to raise 2 more children.
    Even though all of the children are now 'officially' adults, it is my son that has the greatest bond with me. Perhaps it was due to the lean years but it could also be because I did my best to make up for our lost time after I remarried.
    One can only hope for the best if they struggle to do their best (for their children).

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