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    Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsmaschine
    Is that a joke?
    Yep, one of the best - along with Cradle Of Filth.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    Mercyful Fate? You're mad man...
    Maybe - but is that an insult or a compliment?

    King Diamond and Mercyful Fate started a whole new genre in 1982, well before all these Norwegian warpaint combos of today. And unlike most BM bands they actually could play their instruments, not only in the studio but live. Just listen to the one-take recordings of the John Peel sessions on "In The Beginning".
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    In my opinion Metallica certainly does not belong among the top 50 bands. Musically Megadeth were a whole lot better, at least until "Peace Sells..". Their by far best album was "Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good" with the exceptional Chris Poland on lead guitar. Marty Friedman's solo albums are excellent as well, just like the old songs he recorded for Hawaii, but in Megadeth he was far from convincing.

    Bands I think belong among the top 50 are Savage Grace ("After The Fall From Grace"), Griffin ("Flight Of The Griffin"), Helstar ("Nosferatu"), Mercyful Fate/King Diamond ("Melissa", "Abigail"), Cryptic Slaughter ("Money Talks"), Dead Kennedys (OK, not exactly heavy metal, but classic), Savatage ("Hall Of The Mountain King"), Agent Steel ("Skeptics Apocalypse"), Abattoir ("Stronger Than Evil", Exodus ("Bonded By Blood", and, last but not least Exciter ("Violence And Force").
    i definitely agree with you as putting megadeth in the first grade, chris poland had some jazzic tunes but especially his solo in "in my darkest hour" is veird, it is just that the song is good. before peace sells megadeth is punky but peace sells is real megadeth and it is funky (mustaines hero is jimmy page)
    definitely their highest point Rust in peace after then mustaine has matured and his opinions changed he said more melody, less show off, even instaed of playing as fast as it can be, thinking about the melody is better.
    "boycott music that looks good" will end in experimental projects like mekong delta, though i do like that album. when seventh son came people all said synths? it sucks but synthesizer is not that bad it enlarges the vision for example compare hall of the mountain king with gutter ballet or streets or even edge of thorns. edge of thorn is musically excellent but unfortunately jon did not sing.
    again if "them" is not their best album their best is really" the eye".

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Maybe - but is that an insult or a compliment?

    King Diamond and Mercyful Fate started a whole new genre in 1982, well before all these Norwegian warpaint combos of today. And unlike most BM bands they actually could play their instruments, not only in the studio but live. Just listen to the one-take recordings of the John Peel sessions on "In The Beginning".
    I can't stand Black Metal, whether it be King Diamond/Mercyful Fate or Dimmu Borgir. It seems to be of little substance; merely there to provoke a reaction. Certainly not unlike Marilyn Manson or Slipknot of today.

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    I can't stand Black Metal, whether it be King Diamond/Mercyful Fate
    Mercyful Fate and King Diamond are absolutely no black metal. Dimmu Borgir are just overrated posers.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
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    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Well I wouldn't consider Dimmu or COF BM. I call them Ravercore BM. I am not too much into regular Black Metal anymore just the old school stuff as well as DM. I hardly or barely listen to DM. I listen to mostly NSBM. NS has a wider verizon of sub-genres blended into the BM . I hate going into chat rooms and people start naming the fakest bands alive. Mainstreamity is crap. All commercialized metal fails pretty much. The only good popular music is classical and classic rock. I do like one band from the Seattle era of bands which might sound weird. I like Alice in Chains/Mad Season.

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Mercyful Fate and King Diamond are absolutely no black metal. Dimmu Borgir are just overrated posers.
    Well, any middle-aged man who runs around with an inverted cross painted on his forehead is just as shameful.

    If MF is not Black Metal, what would you consider it then?

    The lyrics certainly have the appropriate character, but I guess the vocalist simply couldn't pull off the dry-lung to sound intimidating enough.
    Last edited by The Blond Beast; Sunday, January 4th, 2004 at 08:04 PM.

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    Well, any middle-aged man who runs around with an inverted cross painted on his forehead is just as shameful.
    Well, King Diamond was the first one to use that facepaint in heavy metal. Kiss fall into the hard rock category, but both were playing theater on stage. Kiss went the commercial way, while King Diamond and Mercyful Fate were by far superior musically.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    If MF is not Black Metal, what would you consider it then?
    It is simply heavy metal, clearly influenced by tradiional rock and roll. Musically it could not be much more different from black metal. Alice Cooper and Screaming Jay Hawkins weren't black metal either - they simply used spooky imagery. Iron Maiden used Eddie for about a decade, W.A.S.P. had a stage show that involved lots of artificial blood, pig livers and semi-nude girls getting whipped, then there are bands like GWAR who also wear costumes. The latter are clearly an arts project.

    King Diamond shows are simply great entertainment. They make you ignore the cheesy lyrics, faulty storylines and the far from perfect English.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    The lyrics certainly have the appropriate character, but I guess the vocalist simply couldn't pull off the dry-lung to sound intimidating enough.
    King Diamond uses a lot of irony and is basically a funny guy. Hardly the sociopathic misanthropic (pseudo-]Norwegian black metaller with corpsepaint and fake blood that seemingly has become the new norm by now.
    And all my youth passed by sad-hearted,
    the joy of Spring was never mine;
    Autumn blows through me dread of parting,
    and my heart dreams and longs to die.

    - Nikolaus Lenau (1802-1850)

    Real misanthropes are not found in solitude, but in the world; since it is experience of life, and not philosophy, which produces real hatred of mankind.

    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Alice Cooper and Screaming Jay Hawkins weren't black metal either - they simply used spooky imagery.
    I suppose that's the distinction I have missed: attempting to be spooky as opposed to attempting to appear genuinely disturbed.

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    Post Re: Top 500 Heavy Metal Songs of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    I have all these songs on vinyl and/or CD. Ain't I cool?
    I was just about to say the same thing! he he he.. I still like my old metal.

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