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    Jews hate Christ because he told them their entire world view was a lie. They have hated Christianity since because its continued existence reminds them of this truth. Is it any wonder that they took the path of subversion that cultural marxism showed them and tried to subvert Christianity to their own ends?

    While the Jews around him, and particularly Saul/Paul are suspect, generally the words of Jesus himself resist criticism when put in proper context. I therefore have an open mind toward him and a respect for the very Europeanized faith that grew around his memory. The outward trappings of Christianity changed to fit US, not the other way round, and it was a fit faith for us until (((the enemy))) began to purposely subvert it.

    Now we have anti-white communists in cassocks like Welby or Bergoglio telling us to worship not Christ, but the multi-cult. It seems modern churches only care about feeding Africans and promoting homosexuality, with the kindness of Christ as the excuse. Traitors reign at the very heart of our culture.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Christianity is a jewish based religion:
    https://www.biblica.com/resources/bi...same-religion/

    that is just one source, there are many more.

    In your line of thinking...why do Christians in America fly the jewish flag at their churches?, why do Christians believe jews are their god's "chosen people"? Why do Christian politicians kiss jewish asses every election?
    You tell him, Spear Brave!
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    In your line of thinking...why do Christians in America fly the jewish flag at their churches?, why do Christians believe jews are their god's "chosen people"? Why do Christian politicians kiss jewish asses every election?
    150 years ago, this was not so. Even as recently as the 1950s, Jews were known as "perfidious" in right-thinking churches. The Jews who subverted the faith changed that right quick. All it takes to subvert a politician (who is essentially a whore) is money. The Rothschild patriarchy was smart enough to figure that out, then promote "democracy" so that monarchs, whose tradition was based in honor, would not be able to oppose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodulf View Post
    I'm trying to be respectful...but I don't know what the hell you're talking about...
    Exactly. Same here with respect to his reply to me:
    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    "Learning New Every Day" : Newly learned "Moshiach" , Mose the Messiah
    breaking the chains of the evil native Egyptians...

    Then he will be a Leo , and not a Satan Claas from the deepest valley...

    But the Leo might be in the deepest valley in (360/12)*72 years * 3 or 4 signs .

    So , Moi-Shiah might be to expected in 6900 years , something ....

    4000-2000 BC , the Leo had been the summer peak sun sign ,
    a device , as large as a calf ...
    Nothing he wrote had anything to do with my post. It's like he's a schizophrenic or a German federal disinformation officer simply here to spam the board to make it look ridiculous, ... or he's trying to be funny and make friends.

    Uwe Jens Lornsen if you're bored and trying to be entertaining then state that at the beginning of your post mate. Otherwise, get a grip or if you're a fed, get lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    So anyway, are we finally agreed then that JC was a kike?
    Agreed, except we should add: he was a fictional one (i.e. Jesus was a Jew living in Judea, as much as Odin was a German living in ancient Germania, as much as Jupiter was a Roman living in ancient Italy, as much as Zeus was a Greek living in ancient Athens, etc.). On another note, there's no point in being rude i.e. using the word "kike". We're trying to build bridges. I'd like to see Christianity all but removed from our churches, so that they become White Anglo-Saxon congregation centers (WAS centers aka WASP without the P lol).

    We'll need "our Christians brothers and sisters" on side for that to happen .

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Christ's Advent is an entire rejection of the Jew and the system of the Jew.
    Christianity was originally created for the Jews alone by the ancient Roman government during the First Roman Jewish War.



    That's why it was illegal to be a Christian outside the Near East until the Council of Nicea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    If Christianity is a Jew-derived religion,
    It's called the Tanakh. It's their book (The Old Testament).

    We shouldn't have anything to do with it nor them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    why then do the Jews spend so much time hating on Christ and the Virgin Mary in the Babylonian Talmud?
    Because they think that it's ridiculous we follow a derivation of their religion - that we follow a pacifist version of their Messiah invented by the ancient Romans. They feel that Christianity, in part, led us to behave very irrationally towards them and ourselves hence why we had so much warfare in Europe. No one is taught to think in a church nor act as a community - we're taught to be complacent sheep (that used to be shepherded by our Monarchs like a cattle to a slaughterhouse in routine massive international war over the most trivial pretexts i.e. the King was having a feud with his cousin King in the neighboring country over whose balls were bigger).

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Why did the Popes order Jew books, like the aforementioned evil Talmud, to be burned? Why did a Catholic queen, Isabella, expel all Jews, even the Jew converts to Catholicism, from Spain?
    The Jews were a tool used by the Popes and Royalty as part of the Christian program. The Jews would act as their money lenders, and sometimes things would go foul, and they'd kick them out or punish them in some other way, but they were always given slack and allowed back in later. It was a better system from the elites' perspective than the prior Pagan system. In the Pagan system, the state would act as the "money lender", and if there was a backlash, the rage would be directed towards the Pagan leadership (i.e. the ancient Roman government), instead of a convenient outgroup (the Jews).
    We need a reservation system for our people and our own ethnic-nationalist faith, where we'll have sermons about our people and nations, real history, science, philosophy, etc., in addition to our older religions. Throw in some open bar nights, comedy club hours, music and dance, etc., and it'll be a cracker barrel of good times lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    150 years ago, this was not so. Even as recently as the 1950s, Jews were known as "perfidious" in right-thinking churches. The Jews who subverted the faith changed that right quick. All it takes to subvert a politician (who is essentially a whore) is money. The Rothschild patriarchy was smart enough to figure that out, then promote "democracy" so that monarchs, whose tradition was based in honor, would not be able to oppose them.
    When you look at how far some people will go to uphold their honor, it's probably better to be without any "honor". The crafty man wins in this world. Jesus said to be as crafty as serpents, not just innocent as doves.

    "All it takes to subvert a politician is money." This is a generalized statement with no regard for their situation. Most people who enter into politics start off as naive idealists or zealous know-it-alls who think they possess what it takes to make a change. They think they can beat the system through the system, from within the system.
    Little do they know, if there are any politicians who are genuine or incorruptible, they will be systematically weeded out and denied a chance to come into power.
    Hammarskjold was one rare exception (who the democratic-minded said was a mistake that wouldn't happen again), he seemed to be the office dwelling, compliant, bureaucratic type, completely harmless. He set about to make real changes. He partially transformed the monstrous UN which had been conceived as a chain to hold down Germany into something tolerable.

    The corruption process is not immediate ("bought and paid for"), but gradual, they are gradually "initiated" into the democratic world of politics, a world of slander, toxicity, blackmail, scandals, Christian hypocrisy, pandering to demographics, begging for voters and money, etc. Worst of all is when they hold galas and celebrations behind public eyes and the worst bitter enemies embrace each other off-stage. Since all other paths to seeing how politics could and should be are closed off, they obviously come to love this sort of life. The danger. The bickering. The sensationalist, worldwide attention.

    That you ascribe detective work to the Rothschilds is almost an insult to Germanics. Jews aren't the only ones who notice these things. Money has always been recognized as a corrupting influence.

    I've always said in private circles that all it takes to destabilize the whole political world is introducing one genuine Hitler type (preferably in Germany). That means knowing everything there is to know about him and how he came to be. Unlock the mind of Hitler and the Jewish variety of political chaos can be substituted with something greater.

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    Jesus was Jewish. Under Jewish law, if the mother is Jewish- which Mary was- the child is Jewish. The religion or race of the father is irrelevant. Even if one accepts God as Jesus' father, Jesus was still Jewish. The only way out of this is to claim that Mary was NOT Jesus' mother, and that he was born to a non-Jewish mother.

    Whether Jesus practiced Judaism or not, or considered himself to be Jewish, is also irrelevant. Under Jewish law, once a Jew always a Jew- even if one renounces Judaism and defects to another faith, you're still Jewish (albeit non-observant).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan the Blind View Post
    Whether Jesus practiced Judaism or not, or considered himself to be Jewish, is also irrelevant. Under Jewish law, once a Jew always a Jew- even if one renounces Judaism and defects to another faith, you're still Jewish (albeit non-observant).
    Why should we be obliged to accept the legitimacy of Jewish law or norms? Under Jewish law, gentiles are supposed to be treated as cattle. Is this also something we should abide by, or are we free people, responsible for our own perceptions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Why should we be obliged to accept the legitimacy of Jewish law or norms? Under Jewish law, gentiles are supposed to be treated as cattle. Is this also something we should abide by, or are we free people, responsible for our own perceptions?
    The above is exactly why I started searching for a more organic religion, though you have to break thru the layers of slavery that the judeo-christian religion places on people.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Why should we be obliged to accept the legitimacy of Jewish law or norms? Under Jewish law, gentiles are supposed to be treated as cattle. Is this also something we should abide by, or are we free people, responsible for our own perceptions?
    Wrong question. A better question would be if Jesus himself accepted the legitimacy of Jewish laws. When accused by the Pharisees that he wanted to abolish the laws he stated :

    Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
    Or something like that. So one can deduce that he himself accepted the Law, which of course would mean that he probably considered himself to be a member of the tribe. And it was only really with Paul that the notion that one does not need to follow the Jewish law in order to follow Christ became popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan the Blind View Post
    Jesus was Jewish. Under Jewish law, if the mother is Jewish- which Mary was- the child is Jewish. The religion or race of the father is irrelevant. Even if one accepts God as Jesus' father, Jesus was still Jewish.
    True, but it’s interesting that the Torah doesn’t explicitly state that matrilineal descent should be used, though it can probably be inferred from a passage in Deuteronomy. In the Hebrew Bible, the line always followed the father, and some aspects of Judaism are patrilineal (Cohen, Israel or Levi), but it is more of a secondary identity involving duties and roles. In addition, Joseph married a Egyptian woman and Moses married a Midianite woman, but this was before the Torah was given and the prohibition of marrying out didn’t yet exist. But it was probably obvious to the reader that conversion by ritual immersion (mikveh) had occurred. While it’s unusual that there is no particular verse which states what makes one Jewish in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, on the other hand, makes it very clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johan the Blind View Post
    Whether Jesus practiced Judaism or not, or considered himself to be Jewish, is also irrelevant. Under Jewish law, once a Jew always a Jew- even if one renounces Judaism and defects to another faith, you're still Jewish (albeit non-observant).
    Yes, what you stated is true, according to Halacha. But I find it pecuilar that the state of Isreal (Law of Return) doesn’t consider a Jew to be Jewish if he/she is a member of another religion.
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