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    Post The Status of Racial Invaders in Germany

    Interesting post on the status of racial invaders in Germany.

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    Originally Posted by Randolph
    I will like to know more about the status of racial groups in Germany.


    German 91.5%
    Turkish 2.4%
    Other 6.1%
    (made up largely of Serbo-Croatian, Italian, Russian, Greek, Polish, Spanish)
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    Originally Posted by Randolph
    Pleading ignorance, I am faintly aware that it is a crime to be aware of the white man's superiority. Is this true?


    In many European countries racism is illegal. I'm not sure how it is in Germany but if you use a racist word in public in the UK you will be arrested.


    T.H.:
    I’ll try to get the exact figures on the number of foreigners here, as the percentage you came up with seems modest. At last recollection, the figure was more at 12% which includes race. As German citizenship was offered, many non-Germans decided to either renounce their former or add German citizenship to their own, where applicable, becoming dual-nationals. Certain stipulations are required for obtaining German citizenship.
    1- For those documenting a parent or even a grandparent of German descent, the right to citizenship becomes automatic. The largest group originates from former communist east European countries. These people are rarely racially pure and there is speculation over their documentation as being ungenuine in many cases. German citizenship is also available to Americans who meet these conditions, by the way. You never know when you’ll need it.
    2- Non-Germans who have resided here for a certain amount of time are eligible.
    3- All Jews have an automatic right to permanent residency, but I don’t know the exact details of how this leads to citizenship.

    The "naturalized" fall out of statistics:
    After obtaining German citizenship, one is no longer recognised as a foreign criminal, where applicable, but as a German criminal. Not only are crime statistics subject to distortion, but also district polling as these new document “Germans” tend to drive out indegenous inhabitants thus creating ghetto neighborhoods which significantly distort the political process. Non-ethnic “Germans” never vote for German nationalist parties but of course for those who cater to their interests as peacefull invaders. The largest Ghetto is to be found in Kreuzberg, Berlin. The second in Frankfurt.
    All Moslem groups account for a high birthrate. A family with 9 children is not uncommon by them. Turks are the majority of these Moslems. When Turkish males reach the age of pro-creation, they do not seek Turkish wives who were raised here, because women adapt to their surroundings and quickly become emancipated (in a negative sense). The males then travel to the old country and import some backwoods illiterate bride who wears the head rag and doesn’t speak German as well as any other language. The Trojan horse can’t find her way around here and is for all practical purposes, a slave. The offspring grow up and the cycle continues. Get out your calculators and figure out how short it will take before Germans become a minority in their own country. The official German birthrate is somewhere around 1.8 offspring to 2 parents which means that on an avarage, ethnic-German parents raise less than half a child.
    So, all of you VNN readers of ethnic-German blood should get your German passports and come over here to create a Utah Mormon style replenishment of Aryan racial stock reminiscent of the “Lebensborn” programm during the 3rd Reich.
    As far as racially slurring goes, it doesn’t seem that matters are as intense as in England. I’ve gotten repremanded by ordinary citizens because of my views, but have had a conversation with a policeman sometime ago where we both talked freely. It’s possible to scratch the surface with a lot of people here, but certain terms strike a bell. Germans who have had direct unpleasant experiences with Subs tend to be open about their feelings, whereas most Brits tend to underreact

    http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=346

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    Yeah and Gehard Schroeder allowed this to happen.He et the Turkish workers stay. Schroeder is a failure of a German Chancellor.

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    I must say that the law indeed says that such who are of their ancestry German have a right of German citizenship, but as far as I know that implies only to such groups who kept their German identity until to latest times, actually those who are from German isles and minorities in Eastern Europe.

    I at least have never heard of US Americans who are of German origin, who automatically were naturalized as Germans because of that.
    Also e. g. Northern Italians who have some German knight in the 12th century as proven ancestor could claim for German citizenship if that ancestry thing in German citizenship law would be guilty absolutely.

    As far as I know their is some relating to that German blood thing. Realating to the minority groups in Eastern Europe the question how much oneself or the direct parents (?) still had a Bekenntnis zum deutschen Volkstum (Confession to the German folkishness).
    An American who has German parents gets German citizenship of course, but I hardly think someone who has German ancestors in 1850 will receive it just because of that.
    Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.

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    The keyword in the law for folkish Germans who havn't got German citizenship is deutsche Volkszugehörigkeit:

    § 6 Bundesvertriebenengesetz 1955/93
    Volkszugehörigkeit

    (1) Deutscher Volkszugehöriger im Sinne dieses Gesetzes ist, wer sich in seiner Heimat zum deutschen Volkstum bekannt hat, sofern dieses Bekenntnis durch bestimmte Merkmale wie Abstammung, Sprache, Erziehung, Kultur bestätigt wird.

    (2) Wer nach dem 31. Dezember 1923 geboren ist, ist deutscher Volkszugehöriger, wenn

    1. er von einem deutschen Staatsangehörigen oder deutschen Volkszugehörigen abstammt,

    2. ihm die Eltern, ein Elternteil oder andere Verwandte bestätigende Merkmale, wie Sprache, Erziehung, Kultur vermittelt haben und

    3. er sich bis zum Verlassen der Aussiedlungsgebiete zur deutschen Nationalität erklärt, sich bis dahin auf andere Weise zum deutschen Volkstum bekannt hat oder nach dem Recht des Herkunftsstaates zur deutschen Nationalität gehörte.

    Die Voraussetzungen nach Nummer 2 gelten als erfüllt, wenn die Vermittlung bestätigender Merkmale wegen der Verhältnisse im Herkunftsgebiet nicht möglich oder nicht zumutbar war; die Voraussetzungen nach Nummer 3 gelten als erfüllt, wenn das Bekenntnis zum deutschen Volkstum mit Gefahr für Leib und Leben oder schwerwiegenden beruflichen oder wirtschaftlichen Nachteilen verbunden gewesen wäre, jedoch auf Grund der Gesamtumstände der Wille, der deutschen Volksgruppe und keiner anderen anzugehören, unzweifelhaft ist.


    Here's a comment of the "Russia-Germans" on this:

    Wie kann das Bekenntnis zum Volkstum nachgewiesen werden?

    Durch Dokumente, die anlässlich von:

    Volkszählungen

    Anmeldungen

    Einschulungen

    ausgestellt wurden und durch den Besitz von Personalausweisen und Pässen.

    Weitere Möglichkeiten sind:

    Volkstumsbescheinigungen der Landsmannschaften

    Kennkarten für deutsche Volkszugehörigkeit

    Zeugnisse deutscher Schulen

    Mitgliedsausweise deutscher Vereine

    Umsiedlungsbescheide, aus der Zeit der nationalsozialistischen Herrschaft

    Wenn entsprechende Nachweise nicht erbracht werden können, werden die Aussagen von mindestens zwei glaubwürdigen Zeugen als Nachweis anerkannt. Diese Variante ist sehr schwierig zu realisieren, da ein entsprechender Personenkreis häufig kaum auffindbar oder schwer zu erreichen ist.




    German Volkszugehörigkeit ("folkish-belonging") with which you automatically have the right of gaining German citizenship depends indeed from the question how much you or your parents or the relatives with which you grew up still kept German identity through language, culture, educartion and customs. This applies for the old ethnic German groups in Eastern Europe which kept their German identity until to the 20th century. So you won't get German citizenship if you are an Eastern European and have one German ancestor 150 years ago...
    There are special paragraphs for such people who are of German origin but couldn't live their "German identity" because of the political circumstances (that German identity was surpressed etc.), but who still "according to all circumstances had the will to belong to the German folkish group and to no other".

    The following link gives all paragraphes in law which deal with the citizenship of ethnic Germans (deutsche Volkszugehörige) who got German citizenship in the years 1938-45:

    http://bundesrecht.juris.de/bundesre...000100319.html

    The following text is from the German embassy of Brazil:

    Wenn Sie nach dem 01.01.1975 geboren wurden, können Sie die Staatsangehörigkeit von Ihrer Mutter ableiten. Ihre Mutter kann die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit jedoch nur von Vorfahren in der väterlichen Linie (Vater, Großvater väterlicherseits etc.) ableiten.

    Ein deutscher Staatsangehöriger, der vor dem Jahre 1904 aus Deutschland auswanderte, verlor seine Staatsangehörigkeit automatisch nach 10 jährigem dauernden Aufenthalt im Ausland. Diese Frist konnte seinerzeit durch die Eintragung in die Matrikel eines kaiserlichen Konsulats unterbrochen werden.

    Ein Deutscher verliert die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit automatisch, sobald er eine fremde Staatsangehörigkeit (z.B. die brasilianische) auf eigenen Antrag annimmt.

    Wenn Sie oder einer Ihrer Vorfahren, von dem sie nach dem deutschen Staatsangehörigkeitsrecht die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit ableiten können, zu jenem Personenkreis zählt, der nach 1933 durch das Naziregime aus politischen, rassischen oder religiösen Gründen verfolgt wurde und daher Deutschland verlassen musste, können Sie sich wieder in den deutschen Staatsverband einbürgern lassen. In diesem Fall ist es unerheblich, wenn Sie oder die Person, von der sie die deutsche Staatsangehörigkeit ableiten, nach dem 25.11.1941 eine fremde Staatsangehörigkeit auf Antrag erworben hat.


    A German citizen who emigrated before the year 1904 from Germany lost his citizenship automatically after 10 years permanent residency in a foreign land. HA German citizen also loses it if he claims for an alien citizenship by his own.
    So this applies to the German immigrants to America.
    Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.

    SPENGLER

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