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    Question How did the first Aryans look like?

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iranian
    What do you think?
    I think they probably looked like the Persians who now live in India, near Bombay, I think. Light-skinned, dark hair and dark eyes.

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    I think that due to different climatic conditions on the Iranian Plateau during the end of the Ice Age, the original Aryans were depigmented , although I suspect a variety of hair/eye pigmentation types, and obligatory dolichocephalic skulls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iranian
    What do you think?
    They were dark haired Irano-Afghanids with long noses, probably hairy and tall. I don't want to look through my 2,000+ posts to find pictures I've posted of Aryan West Asians. It's one of my favorite subjects, though. :-)

    Pictures relating to Scythian

    I hope you can post some pictures of Aryans. :-)

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    Are you refering to the Parsis?

    Scythian is a collective name. All people in Eurasia were named as such during Herodotus time.

    Herodotus wrote that the Scythians fought the "Persians". Persians refered to the Scythians as "Saka".

    The Scythians were a federation of people who lived much more north, and they were described as having a blond element. They lived originally in the middle Volga and Urals. There are no Iranian toponyms there. It is only a theory that they were Iranian-speaking. You can read "Scythian history" by Andrey Lyzlov 1692, published by Novikov in 1787. He proves that Turks descend from Scythians.

    A people can also receive a language without the physical type. There is a replacement model.





    Quote Originally Posted by Louky
    I think they probably looked like the Persians who now live in India, near Bombay, I think. Light-skinned, dark hair and dark eyes.
    Last edited by Glenlivet; Wednesday, December 10th, 2003 at 06:52 PM.

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    If by 'first Aryans' you mean first speakers of proto-Indo-European, then they were light-eyed, dark haired dolicocephals and looked like these Russians who are directly descended from them:

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    Yes, I was refering to the Parsis.

    I don't know a lot about the "Aryan Theory," but I suspect the blond element one finds in Iran today has a northern, maybe Scythian origin. Maybe the popularization of the ancient Aryans being blond got started from confusing the Scythians with the Aryas? I wouldn't doubt that the skeletal remains of the Parsis (rare, since they practice cremation) could be classified as Nordid.

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    Check out this link:

    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...le_origins.php

    There's no point in pasting the whole article, anyway it clearly states, that original Aryans from Iranian Plateau were partially depigmented. At the end of the Ice Age they migrated northwards, eventually creating the Kurgan civilisation in Ukraine, and the Corded Ware culture in Poland, finally establishing themselves in Sweden (obviously absorbing the local inhabitants in the way of this migration). It seems that the Aryan invasion of India and the Middle-East (Hittites, Hyksos) in 1500s BC were some sort of a returning wave to their proto-homeland in Iran.
    Or maybe the article is just a work of an Iranocentric maniac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel`Thuz
    Check out this link:

    http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...le_origins.php

    There's no point in pasting the whole article, anyway it clearly states, that original Aryans from Iranian Plateau were partially depigmented. At the end of the Ice Age they migrated northwards, eventually creating the Kurgan civilisation in Ukraine, and the Corded Ware culture in Poland, finally establishing themselves in Sweden (obviously absorbing the local inhabitants in the way of this migration). It seems that the Aryan invasion of India and the Middle-East (Hittites, Hyksos) in 1500s BC were some sort of a returning wave to their proto-homeland in Iran.
    Or maybe the article is just a work of an Iranocentric maniac.
    Quite possibly. The central premise of the article is wrong; the original Aryans evolved in the Ukraine refuge during the last glacial maxim. They were not from the Iranian Plateau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louky
    Yes, I was refering to the Parsis.

    I don't know a lot about the "Aryan Theory," but I suspect the blond element one finds in Iran today has a northern, maybe Scythian origin.
    Quite possibly. However you define 'Aryan' (first speakers of Indo-European languages or the Iranian-speaking tribes that invaded Indian in antiquity), they were most closely related to modern-day Eastern Europeans, especially Russians.

    I wouldn't doubt that the skeletal remains of the Parsis (rare, since they practice cremation) could be classified as Nordid.
    1. The Parsis do not practice cremation. Their religion (Zoroastrianism) forbids them from defiling earth, fire and water. They place their dead in 'towers of silence' for the vultures to devour their flesh.

    2. The Parsis are not Nordic by any stretch.

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