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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    The Quran does actually condone violence against ex-Muslims or infidels.

    4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm

    I also wonder what Neo-Islam is?
    This is the correct translation.

    [4:89] They wish that you disbelieve as they have disbelieved, then you become equal. Do not consider them friends, unless they mobilize along with you in the cause of GOD. If they turn against you, you shall fight them, and you may kill them when you encounter them in war. You shall not accept them as friends, or allies.

    Faith Freedom is a site made by Zionists.

    Neo-Islam is a mix of White Nationalism and Radical Islam. It might sound like an oxymoron, but it is possible.
    The Jew cannot trust and must never expect to build any relationship between himself and the Gentile. Between Jews and Gentiles there is an unbridgeable gap. No agreements, no "faith-building", and no "normalization". Any attempt to be "nice" and to make "peace" with him will just create illusions that will eventually explode in the Jew's face. The only healthy approach is to distance ourselves as much as possible from dialogue and deals. Only thus will we prosper. Only thus will we avoid dangerous and unnecessary illusions - Binyamin Zev Kahane (2002)

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    This is the correct translation.

    [4:89] They wish that you disbelieve as they have disbelieved, then you become equal. Do not consider them friends, unless they mobilize along with you in the cause of GOD. If they turn against you, you shall fight them, and you may kill them when you encounter them in war. You shall not accept them as friends, or allies.

    Faith Freedom is a site made by Zionists.

    Neo-Islam is a mix of White Nationalism and Radical Islam. It might sound like an oxymoron, but it is possible.
    I have no Quran so I cant dispute translations at the moment. I dont find Faith freedom to be Zionist though?

    It sounds interesting. A description of Neo-Islam would be welcome (and earn you some rep points )

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    It sounds interesting. A description of Neo-Islam would be welcome (and earn you some rep points )
    It isnt a full scale organization or anything. I know in Islam, and Islamic societies in general, people tend to stick together in bands, and dont marry outside thier religion.

    This same method could be used for racial preservation, where it will be very taboo to marry outside ones race, and punishments can be severe. A tribal white islamic society, where we breed within our tribes and dont go outside our tribes, like in many Arab tribes.

    Arab tribes stay within their tribes for millenia.

    The major obstacle occurs when a non-White Muslim wants to mate with a White Muslim.

    I am a former Christian, who has studied Islam for 4 years, first out of hate, then out of curiousity, now I feel I have found the right religion.

    There are problems with White Nationalism meshing with Islam, but there are many possibilites.
    The Jew cannot trust and must never expect to build any relationship between himself and the Gentile. Between Jews and Gentiles there is an unbridgeable gap. No agreements, no "faith-building", and no "normalization". Any attempt to be "nice" and to make "peace" with him will just create illusions that will eventually explode in the Jew's face. The only healthy approach is to distance ourselves as much as possible from dialogue and deals. Only thus will we prosper. Only thus will we avoid dangerous and unnecessary illusions - Binyamin Zev Kahane (2002)

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    It isnt a full scale organization or anything. I know in Islam, and Islamic societies in general, people tend to stick together in bands, and dont marry outside thier religion.

    This same method could be used for racial preservation, where it will be very taboo to marry outside ones race, and punishments can be severe. A tribal white islamic society, where we breed within our tribes and dont go outside our tribes, like in many Arab tribes.

    Arab tribes stay within their tribes for millenia.

    The major obstacle occurs when a non-White Muslim wants to mate with a White Muslim.

    I am a former Christian, who has studied Islam for 4 years, first out of hate, then out of curiousity, now I feel I have found the right religion.

    There are problems with White Nationalism meshing with Islam, but there are many possibilites.
    Thanks for the description, both interesting and with good points. I agree that no religion is inherently impossible to combine with Racialism (on the other hand this means that the non-mixing tribalism of Islam is a cultural artifact and not a part of religion really. It can be combined with any religion, so it is not as such an argument to choose Islam).

    It sure makes one think about the relationships between geopolitics, history, race and religion. Personally I would prefer a pagan revival (preferably with some Occult NS admixture), with the same tribalism that you describe. I am aware that there is a serious risk that Europe will become Muslim though, since it is the only vital religion in Europe at the moment and since it seems like a radical alternative to some anti-modernists. My main problems with this is that it will probably lead to miscegenation with other, immigrant, Muslims, and that Islam is really more suited to primitive Arabs than to Europeans.

    What is your opinion on immigration of other Muslims to Europe?

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    I have no Quran so I cant dispute translations at the moment.
    I do, with the original Arab text on one page and a Dutch translation on the other. The verse in question reads: "Zij wensen dat gij verwerpt, evenals zij hebben verworpen, zodat gij aan hen gelijk zult worden. Neemt derhalve geen vrienden uit hun midden totdat zij voor de zaak van Allah werken. En indien zij tot vijandschap vervallen, grijpt hen dan en doodt hen waar gij hen ook vind; en neemt vriend noch helper uit hun midden."
    In English, that would be: "They wish that you reject, like they have rejected, so you will become equal to them. Therefore take no friends from their midst until they work for the cause of Allah. And if they fall to enmity, grab them and kill them wherever you may find them; and take neither friend nor assistant from their midst."

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    What is your opinion on immigration of other Muslims to Europe?
    I dont agree with it, but I dont blame the Arabs, they are taking advantage of a situation.

    I blame us Europeans, for letting this happen. Many parts of Europe are basically a lost cause. Something serious needs to be done about the immigration problem.

    I wish we Europeans were like this, where we go into a foriegn land, and then breed, and then displace the local population.

    Sometimes I wonder the Arabs are so good at doing this, we can do the same.

    But other than that the Arabs are fighting the wars we should be fighting, against the Zionists in Israel, and against the blacks in Africa. The Arabs can be more racist than any White Nationalist.
    The Jew cannot trust and must never expect to build any relationship between himself and the Gentile. Between Jews and Gentiles there is an unbridgeable gap. No agreements, no "faith-building", and no "normalization". Any attempt to be "nice" and to make "peace" with him will just create illusions that will eventually explode in the Jew's face. The only healthy approach is to distance ourselves as much as possible from dialogue and deals. Only thus will we prosper. Only thus will we avoid dangerous and unnecessary illusions - Binyamin Zev Kahane (2002)

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    I dont agree with it, but I dont blame the Arabs, they are taking advantage of a situation.

    I blame us Europeans, for letting this happen. Many parts of Europe are basically a lost cause. Something serious needs to be done about the immigration problem.
    Agreed. It still makes them our antagonists though, sooner or later we will have to get rid of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    I wish we Europeans were like this, where we go into a foriegn land, and then breed, and then displace the local population.

    Sometimes I wonder the Arabs are so good at doing this, we can do the same.
    We used to be very good at this too. Just look at the Americas, South Africa or Australia Or, earlier in history, the Aryan invasion of India, the toacharian invasion of China, the dorian invasion of Greece. All of these latter folks were like us, and they achieved miracles under paganism

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    But other than that the Arabs are fighting the wars we should be fighting, against the Zionists in Israel, and against the blacks in Africa. The Arabs can be more racist than any White Nationalist.
    The blacks in Africa should be left alone methinks, apart from South Africa which belongs to whites and bushmen (the Sudanese "Arabs" are basically Arab-speaking Blacks besides, so it is an intra-racial war).

    This Arab racism and expansionism is what makes them a more severe threat than Blacks.

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticofArabia
    The Koran does not say this, Jew. Please know what you are talking about, before uttering falsehoods.
    yes it does, Ive actually read it.

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by gorgeousgal2k2
    yes it does, Ive actually read it.
    Post the quote, link the quote, anything. Lets see you back this claim up.
    The Jew cannot trust and must never expect to build any relationship between himself and the Gentile. Between Jews and Gentiles there is an unbridgeable gap. No agreements, no "faith-building", and no "normalization". Any attempt to be "nice" and to make "peace" with him will just create illusions that will eventually explode in the Jew's face. The only healthy approach is to distance ourselves as much as possible from dialogue and deals. Only thus will we prosper. Only thus will we avoid dangerous and unnecessary illusions - Binyamin Zev Kahane (2002)

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    Post Re: Semitic Ritual Murder

    Celtic of Arabia said:
    The Koran does not say this, Jew. Please know what you are talking about, before uttering falsehoods.
    This is the correct translation.

    [4:89] They wish that you disbelieve as they have disbelieved, then you become equal. Do not consider them friends, unless they mobilize along with you in the cause of GOD. If they turn against you, you shall fight them, and you may kill them when you encounter them in war. You shall not accept them as friends, or allies.
    I don't know where you got that quote from, because it is highly inaccurate. Here's three translations of that passage from the Koran published by the Muslim Student Association, which is no "Zionist" organization.

    004.089
    YUSUFALI: They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-

    PICKTHAL: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

    SHAKIR: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
    Nowhere does it say anything even remotely similar to only killing them when "encounter[ing] them in war," as you said it supposedly did. You also said:
    Faith Freedom is a site made by Zionists.
    This is simply untrue. They use passages from the translations used by the MSA, which I cited above. You can see a great many other passages similar to the ones above by clicking here. FaithFreedom.org is an excellent site...

    I suggest everybody who believes the remarks by Celtic of Arabia go to that page and Ctrl-F "knowing the truth" (without the quotation marks). There you will see cited tons of passages describing how it is allowable for Muslims to lie to non-Muslims about Islam in order to defend it from criticism. So, what Celtic of Arabia is doing is sanctioned by his religion, that is, intentionally attempting to deceive those whom he believes know very little about the Koran. So he may well be using another version of the Koran translated in such a manner that it is to be used to deceive Westerners or to distribute it among Westerners to prove that Islam is a "religion of peace."

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