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    Wink Classify Georgian general Bagration

    Let's try to classify "Russian" general Bagration. His was an ethic Georgian, of royal family who had ruled over Georgia before the Russian empire invaded. I think his looks are a bit strange.




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    Extremely Dinarid, perhaps Lundman would call him Mtebid. I guess that no one here disagree if I say that is one very hooked-nosed man.

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    Reminds me a lot of Alexander the Great of Greek Macedonia.

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    [QUOTE=Tifilis]Let's try to classify "Russian" general Bagration. His was an ethic Georgian, of royal family who had ruled over Georgia before the Russian empire invaded. I think his looks are a bit strange.

    he sure is no georgian. or any caucasian. perhaps some variant of an armenian

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    Very Dinarid.

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    woah....

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    Armenoid, probably.

    EDIT: Definitely Armenoid. Dinarics have deeper-set eyes.

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    Bagration was descended from the Georgian branch of the Armenian Bagratid dynasty

    From British Encyclopedia:

    http://www.britannica.com/eb/article...bagratid&ct=eb

    Bagratid Dynasty

    princely and royal dynasty founded in Armenia and Georgia during the 9th century by the Bagratuni family. The Bagratid kings kept Armenia independent of both the Byzantine Empire and the 'Abbasid Caliphate.
    With the decline of the previously ruling Mamikonian dynasty, the Bagratids emerged as one of the most powerful noble families in Armenia. The Arabs' choice in 806 of Ashot Bagratuni the Carnivorous to be prince of Armenia made his family the chief power in the land. The Bagratids were more diplomatic than the Mamikonians in their dealings with their foreign overlords. The governor Smbat Ablabas Bagratuni remained loyal to the caliph.

    The election of Smbat's son Ashot I the Great, who had been accepted as “prince of princes” by the Arabs in 862, to be king of Armenia in 885 was recognized by both the caliph and the Byzantine emperor, and it was he who by his successful defense of his country against local Arab chieftains laid the foundations of a new golden age of Armenian history. Throughout the 10th century, Armenian art and literature flourished. Ashot III (“the Merciful,” 952–977) transferred his capital to Ani (near modern Anipemza) and began to transform it into one of the architectural gems of the Middle Ages.

    Another Bagratid, Adarnase IV, became king of Georgia in 888, and his line ruled there intermittently until 1505.

    The Bagratids of Ani bore the title of shahanshah (“king of kings”), which was first conferred by the caliph in 922 upon Ashot II the Iron. In 961 Mushegh, the brother of Ashot III, founded the Bagratid kingdom of Kars. By the 11th century, the combined invasions of the Seljuk Turks and Byzantine conquests in the west destroyed what remained of the Bagratids and the Armenian kingdom.



    Pyotr Ivanovich, Prince Bagration
    born 1765, Kizlyar, Russia
    died September 24 [September 12, Old Style], 1812, Sima

    http://www.britannica.com/eb/article...bagratid&ct=eb

    Russian general who distinguished himself during the Napoleonic Wars.

    Bagration was descended from the Georgian branch of the Bagratid dynasty. He entered the Russian army in 1782 and served several years in the Caucasus. During the Russo-Turkish War of 1787–92, he participated in the siege of Ochakov, a fortress near the mouth of the Knepr River, and he helped suppress the Polish uprising (1794) after the second partition of Poland (1793).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifilis
    Let's try to classify "Russian" general Bagration. His was an ethic Georgian, of royal family who had ruled over Georgia before the Russian empire invaded. I think his looks are a bit strange.



    Armenoid

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    Post Re: Georgian general

    Yes. Bagrations were the Georganized Armenians ruling Georgia like Arshakounis were Armenianized Parthians.

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