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    Post Re: Brazilian politics against German cultural and racial preservation

    I really don´t believe Getúlio Vargas or indeed the bulk of the AIB supporters who opposed Vargas (which included many pro-fascist Italian and German immigrants) were engaged in any sort of activities aimed at "destroying European cultures".

    Both the Vargas "Estado Novo" regime and the Integralistas (Salgado, Barroso, Reale, etc.) were ardent BRAZILIAN nationalists, and yes, a great many Germanic and Italic Brazilians were patriotic and loved their adopted nation, which welcomed them with open arms after economic circumstances forced them to abandon theirs.

    What Vargas opposed was the action of agents of foreign governments in Brazil, be they American, British, Italian, German or whatever. Agents of the German government were engaged in activities which were harmful to the interests of Brazilian state as they discouraged German-Brazilians from integrating into Brazilian society. Whether one likes or dislikes his policies, it is undeniable that in this respect Vargas simply did what was patriotic, and nothing else should be expected from an authentic Brazilian nationalist. The Germans do indeed have every right to remain purely German and live in a purely Germanic state, but it is much more logical that this should be done in GERMANY and not in Brazil. German-Brazilians are absolutely free to apply for German citizenship and emigrate to Germany if they so please.

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    Post Re: Brazilian politics against German cultural and racial preservation

    What is Brazilian or any American identity without the European heritage?
    Nothing but a colony without roots and higher culture!

    I understand what you mean, but German Brazilians are better for Brazilia than rootless upmixed barbarians like there are to many in the Amazonas region f.e.

    The European culture in Brazilia no matter if German, Italian or Portuguese should be preserved to the best of Europeans all over the world and to the best of Brazilia!
    Only the European potential of Brazilia can give this country the power to develop itself finally.
    Magna Europa est patria nostra
    STOP GATS! STOP LIBERALISM!

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    There was an unprecedented influx of immigrants in the 1880s both in America and Brazil. Germans were welcome. They were intelligent, educated, and wealthy. Their most appealing qualities were their industry, thrift, and honesty. The German male was strongly attached to his family, orderly, disciplined, and stable. The German wife was a model of cleanliness and efficiency. National identity was stressed. Conformity to the dominant culture in language, manners, and religious beliefs was mandatory .The term, Americanization, came into frequent usage. In Brazil, German immigrants were regarded as desirable, not only because they would bring valuable skills with them, but also because they would "whiten” the population, which in 1890 was only 44 percent white.

    When world war engulfed Europe in 1914 both the United States and Brazil declared their neutrality. However, in 1917 both countries declared war on Germany because their ocean-going vessels had been torpedoed by German submarines. The war introduced a period of persecution in both countries. In the United States citizens of German origin were oppressed: their music was banned, German streets and towns were renamed, language instruction was restricted, books were burned, and German newspapers were regulated. Germans were even beaten, arrested, and forced to kiss the American flag in public. In Brazil the prosperous Germans evoked even more antagonism. Property was damaged by mobs and seized by the president, German church services were outlawed, and all instruction in the German language was prohibited in the schools. As a consequence many German Brazilians became receptive to the Nazi siren song in the '30s.

    http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/i...ldreview1.html

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    Post Re: Brazilian politics against German cultural and racial preservation

    Not bad. Could be a temporary solution for Germany's Lebensraum problems, as long as Triglav watches like a hawk that he doesn't wake up one morning suddenly as Volksgenosse of the Gau Lower Styria.

    Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.

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    Post Re: Brazilian politics against German cultural and racial preservation

    Europeans in Brazil are in Ethnolysis process.



    Three Stages of Racially-Induced Ethnolysis ( by Dienekes )


    I have coined ethnolysis as a blanket term for the dissolution of an ethnic group. One way that ethnolysis can occur is through racial intermixture, i.e., the genetic dissolution of a people by means of a racially foreign element (*)

    Examples of racially-incuced ethnolysis is the creation of the Latin American nations, whereby the Native American people were ethnolyzed via the European colonists, the destruction of the pre-Aryan cultures in parts of India, or the pre-Celtic cultures in the British Isles. In these cases, the racially foreign element achieved its goal by the possession of greater strength. There are also cases where the dominant group was ethnolyzed by the subordinate one, as in e.g., the Lombard element in parts of Italy, the Bulgar element in Bulgaria, or the Spanish element in parts of America. The last example also illustrates that sometimes two ethnic groups (Spaniards/Americans) ethnolyze each other.

    I suspect that there are three stages in racially induced ethnolysis. In Stage I, the balance of power/numbers is in favor of one of the two groups, which shrugs off the presence of the other as an inconvenience. Europe is probably in this stage with respect to its racially foreign population, similar to the Roman past where the early penetration of the racially foreign northern element was not checked initially, with the result being the downfall of the Western Empire.

    In Stage II, maximum tension between the groups is reached, often resulting in violent conflict. An example of this is White-Black relations in the United States in the 19th and 20th century, or the struggle between Russians and Tatars. It is possible at this stage for the group undergoing ethnolysis to strike back and preserve its identity. Examples of this include the Christians of the Balkan peninsula who survived the Ottoman occupation.

    In many other cases though ethnolysis is not halted at Stage II, but rather proceeds to Stage III which is also the terminal condition. We need to look no further than the history books for examples of countless peoples who no longer exist in a cultural-genetic sense, having been ethnolyzed at some point in the past by racial intermixture.

    (*) I use "racially foreign" in the sense of genetically distant, rather than the stricter sense of belonging to a different human subspecies.

    http://www.dienekes.com/blog/archives/2004_01.html

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    Poor Germans who ended up in Brazil!

    I don't know too much about the German communities there, it's still an enigma for me, but to me Portuguese language sounds horrible and it is known that India and Brazil are the most dangerous countries for women, with a huge rate of rapes there!

    “I'm not surprised by the results as they're based on perceptions. India and Brazil have seen a lot of media attention on sexual violence in recent years,” said Rebecca Reichmann Tavares, head of UN Women in India who also worked in Brazil.“Sexual violence in both these cities is, of course, a reality, but there isn't any definitive data to suggest that rates are higher in Delhi and Sao Paulo than any other city.”
    Delhi, a city of more than 26 million, came in joint worst place with Sao Paulo in Brazil, out of 19 megacities.
    Tokyo was ranked the best city in terms of the least risk of sexual violence faced by women, although campaigners say the issue is simply hidden and not talked about.
    Cairo in Egypt was rated the most dangerous city for women overall, while London was rated the best megacity for women.
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    Anyone who has more knowledge about Germans in South America? Any Germans from South America around here? I'm curious, how do you feel in those countries as a Germanic? I would be interested to hear some personal views from the Germanics living there, not just articles from the web.
    Die Farben duften frisch und grün... Lieblich haucht der Wind um mich.

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