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    Am I the only one who will not miss Pierce?
    Having read the threads on the Stormfront and AryanDawn webboards referring to Pierce's death and just having deleted about 200 chain emails of the Gerhard article I seriously have to ask myself whether I am the only one here who does not miss Pierce at all.

    Although many here won't believe it (not that it really matters) I have been in opposition to Pierce long before Harold Covington started his anti-NA campaigns in the early 90s. This silly "De mortuis nihil nisi bene" concept has for decades kept us from analyzing our own weaknesses and mistakes and learning from them. What we (we as activists, we as the "movement", we as those seriously pissed) need in order to ever get anywhere as far as visible results are concerned is critical thinkers - and not yah-sayers and pathological groupies.

    Now let us cut like a knife through this veil of impulsive and subjective hagiography and look at what the Doc Pierce has really achieved in over three decades:

    1. He worked with/for George Lincoln Rockwell, most probably the most dead-end political course one could take in America. The NA originally sprang from the Youth For Wallace, which is also quite dubious as this was a clearly conservative all-American "movement" and not revolutionary in any
    way.

    2. The whole NA was basically Pierce's private property, run in an authoritarian and anything but halfway democratic style. The sheer idiocy of the majority of Pierce's sycophants was outstanding. Apparently Pierce was aiming very low for membership as he certainly did not tolerate anyone potentially equally intelligent in the ranks of the NA.

    3. Pierce was the teflon man of the "movement" although he probably gave the feds more reasons for investigations/actions than any other "movement" group, maybe with the exception of the WCOTC. Yet nothing ever happened, while there were sieges in Ruby Ridge and Waco.

    4. Despite all that revolutionary and violent rhetoric Pierce was probably the most conservative man in the movement and far as habitus and personal behavior is concerned. Being a major shareholder while on the other hand disguising as sort of an anti-capitalist does not make you very trustworthy

    5. Pierce's NA empire is basically the result of what I would call "hostile takeovers". He profited from the infighting and quarrels his missionaries incited in other organizations. While I admit that I cannot
    fully judge the results of that strategy (Resistance Records come to mind as an example) I am fully aware of the results in Europe, where Pierce tried to undermine and destroy legitimate nationalist organizations and basically acted like an agent provocateur from the safety of his WV compound while his NA cannon fodder in Europe did the dirty work. And by dirty work I don't mean morally
    or ethically questionable tactics. I am talking about criminal activities (and yes, they are even criminal in the U.S.)

    6. Pierce never spent any energy on building structures. The NA has no cadres, no mandatory training and education for members and basically nothing ever got delegated from WV to state or local chapters. There is no clear chain of command. I also doubt (and the future will show)
    that the NA as an organization is legally owning anything. NA operations were financed
    exclusively according to Pierce's good will.


    7. There is no legal way the membership of the NA can replace it's Führer At least there are no charter provisions for that scenario. Would you want to be a member of such an absolutistic group? I certainly wouldn't.

    8. The Cosmotheist Church concept was so ridiculous that even the Area 51 conspiracy nuts make a whole lot more sense.

    Now that Pierce is dead there at least is the theoretical chance that the NA might evolve into a serious political force. But in order to achieve that almost everything will have to be changed. You really cannot achieve anything when you're hiding in the backwoods of West Virginia, where you
    pool your resources and members will have to do a pilgrimage there like muslims do their hadj to Mecca. In order to be more than just a personal cult the NA will have to define itself as a political force. As such it will have to influence the political process directly - and that is the hardest part. Therefore most "movement" groups have always shied away from that responsibility. But exactly that is expected by the people. Selling books and CDs just isn't enough. The ADV broadcast lacked coherence and never offered a viable strategy for the listeners. The bottom line was "Send me your
    $$ so that I can perpetuate these ADV sermons from the WV hill and sell more trinkets".

    There may have been longtime goals, but they were anything but concrete. It all boiled down to "Trust me, I know the way". But the point is: I doubt that Pierce ever did. He probably was the one most surprised by the fact that such a comic book, mad professor type guru could attract a substantial
    number of allegedly political groupies. I mean, Pierce had the charisma of a dead fish. That guy really creeped me (and not only me) out and those who know me also know that I am not very sensitive in that regard.
    Of course, if you know anything about Dick Barrett, you know he had to chime in, of course with a little bit of self-promotion for himself. This was found on a listserv called Upstream:

    Pied Piper from Hell
    July 23, 2002
    Tim-McVeigh-instigator William Pierce dead at 68
    Campaign of maimings, jailings and bombings ends
    The man inexorably promoted by the Jewish Anti-Defamation League as the leading neo-Nazi in America is dead at 68. William Pierce, the West-Virginia-based proprietor of various Internet, music
    and publishing operations, had been an associate of George Lincoln Rockwell, who had proclaimed himself the "American Fuhrer" during the Sixties. According to historian David Irving, the Jewish
    Lobby had hyped certain neo-Nazis in order to raise funds and keep a sort of "boogeyman" before the public.

    According to Richard Barrett, "There were two figures who the Jewish Lobby had touted in an attempt to portray American rightists as Hitler-worshipers: Richard Butler and William Pierce. The
    path to pro-majority social reform, based on pure patriotism and pure blood, is no longer marginalized or distracted by such diversion." Pierce, a self-professed atheist, had "made his mark, but it was not a red, white and blue one."

    In 1969, Pierce had pilfered the mailing list of the National Youth Alliance, the organization founded in Washington, DC by Barrett to carry on the efforts of Youth for Wallace, which he chaired. When Barrett left the capital to attend law school, Pierce used the list -- and the name -- to distribute a newsletter adulating Hitler, which, also, called for the assassination of public officials. Pierce, also,
    changed his name to National Alliance, which he ran as a sole proprietorship.

    (Editor's note: Son of a---! We didn't know this bit of info!!! Of course, Barrett has a habit of skewering the truth, so we cannot say what role he had in all of this for certain. I do notice that the name of Willis Carto is left out of this, and it has been well known that Pierce and Carto was at war over this list controversy for years.--DLJ)

    In 1982, Pierce established what he termed the Cosmotheist Church, which had its tax-exemption yanked by the Internal Revenue Service after it was adjudged to be a sham for atheism. Pierce
    had contemplated using the "church" to manage an estate he acquired in Hillsboro, West Virginia. In a far-reaching legal precedent, the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia held,
    when Pierce sought exemption for his Alliance, that use of the word "European" and "white" disqualified an organization from claiming exemption.

    According to Barrett, "the 1982 Pierce-ruling was a major bungle, which set back rightist activists. It changed laws, which had existed for hundreds of years, to penalize those who promoted education." The IRS used the rule to shut down virtually every solvent rightist institution in the country. In 1988, Ben Klassen, an atheist Russian immigrant, offered to deed his North Carolina compound
    to The Nationalist Movement, but was turned down because a Klassen associate had been sued for murder and any of Klassen's assets would be subject to levy.


    Judgment assessed
    Pierce struck a deal with Klassen for the property. However, Pierce was then sued by pro-minority activist Morris Dees, who secured a $200,000.00 judgment against Pierce, which Pierce paid
    off in cash. Barrett, who had defeated Dees when Dees sued the Nationalists, said that the judgment against Pierce had set a bad example that rightists were vulnerable to lawsuits. Mark Thomas, an associate of both Pierce and Butler, was, then, jailed for receiving funds from various
    mid-West bank robberies. The money was never traced directly to Pierce, however Attorney-General John Ashcroft, in recent FBI testimony before Congress, stated that the National Alliance was a "domestic terrorist" group.

    Pierce openly displayed Hitlerian insignia on his Internet site, while touting the brand of anarchy which had attracted Tim McVeigh. McVeigh ascribed his bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal
    Building to the plan advanced by Pierce in his book, Turner Diaries, and Pierce maintained that he was an avid fan of McVeigh and the bombing. Wendell Gardner said that Pierce's preoccupation with violence had been Pierce's most negative and harmful attribute. "He had gotten many people killed, maimed and jailed, kind of like some Pied Piper from hell," said Gardner. Barry Hackney called Pierce a "talented writer" who "identified cogent problems but not viable solutions."

    Larry Shumake, a Pierce devotee, killed himself after engaging in a shootout with police in Jackson, Mississippi. Todd Vanbiber, a member of Pierce's Alliance, was blinded when a bomb he was
    making exploded. Vanbiber received a lengthy prison term. Another Pierce admirer, Alex Curtis, called for "lone-wolf" killings and bombings, over the Internet. Curtis is serving a federal prison sentence for "intimidation" and conspiracy. Hendrick Moebus, an escaped murderer, took up refuge at Pierce's compound, but was denied political asylum on the grounds that he had associated with Pierce, who was adjudged by the courts to have been a violence instigator.

    Pierce has lately taken up the publication of "black metal" music, which he acquired from George Burdi, a Satan-worshiper who also professed devotion to Hitler, but who shifted to promoting
    miscegenation and who moved in with his East Indian concubine. According to Roger Rawls, "Pierce had a penchant to make Skinheads appear as raunchy as possible. He pushed the Beatnik style in a way that debased the pure blood, pure skin and pure cause of the Skinhead movement." Varg Vikernes, who had collaborated with Pierce in his music venture, is imprisoned in Sweden for burning down a string of churches.

    In jail or dead
    Pierce had published a comic book depicting individuals using clubs to beat up their foes. "Those, such as Benjamin Smith, who followed his advice, wound up either in jail or dead," complained
    Rawls. "And Pierce was nowhere around to help out the ones who he got in trouble." Pierce had become the beneficiary of ADL publicity only after the Jewish Lobby's first choice, Andrew Greenbaum, folded. Greenbaum, who used the alias "Bo Decker," had dressed up as Hitler and was claimed by ADL-chief Abraham Foxman to be "the fastest-growing group in America." When Greenbaum was exposed as a Jew, he dropped from sight and Foxman bestowed the title upon Pierce.

    According to Foxman, Pierce had amassed a multi-million-dollar fortune, but the sources of Pierce's funding remain shadowy. Only a month ago, Washington reporter Jim Oliphant had suggested
    in Legal Times that Pierce was being financed to the tune of one-million dollars per year by Ahmed Huber, a half-Jewish, half-Arab millionaire living in Switzerland, who shared a passionate hatred of
    Christianity with Pierce. Shortly before his death, Pierce had "declared war" on Nationalists and Christians. His spokesman, Billy Roper, had begun issuing public statements that Nationalists were "insignificant" and "mentally ill." Eric Owens chimed in terming Nationalists "crazy" and "nuts" on Pierce's website, right up until the end.

    The day that Pierce expired, after a one-month bout with liver and kidney cancer, an 11-year-old had asked Nationalists if it would be all right to put up Pierce's stickers. The youth said that he planned to use "surgical gloves" in the operation to prevent leaving fingerprints. He was told by Crosstar that Pierce-follower Richard Desper and others had already been charged with felonies for doing that very thing. Crosstar's suggestion was to learn and follow the law and to get with an organization which offered some legal protections. Pierce replied on his website, however, that it is "best
    to stay underground for awhile and not get caught doing anything. Best advice I could give you is ... practice not getting caught."

    Pierce had preached an odd mixture of Hitlerism, anarchy, Satan-worship and nihilism. He had once imported a mail-order bride from Eastern Europe, who quickly dumped him upon arriving in America. Mark Cotterill, a former spokesman for the British National Party, struck up an acquaintance with Pierce, but was immediately hounded by immigration authorities for being an illegal agent of a foreign government and hob-knobbing with a violence-instigator. Harold Covington, a self-declared neo-Nazi who had accused Pierce of being a "fraud," stated that "as far as I am concerned, the Pierce episode in our history is closed."

    (So Much for Unity Among the Kinsmen!
    Since William Luther Pierce shuffled off this mortal plane, there has been a lot of accolades, poems and "Hail Pierce!" coming from the White Supremacist crowd. Some, however are not in mourning. This came from someone who posted to an Egroups list under the name "Phlegethon"

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    Why I Broke With William Pierce
    by Bradford Davis
    Note: This letter is as the One People's Project received it. Bradford Davis is a racist who is trying to warn his fellow racists about National Alliance head William Pierce. His letter however, gives the rest of us insight as to how pathetic the man and his group really is. Take what you read with a grain of salt, though.While there seems to be some valid points against the NA, Davis could be simply sucking on sour grapes, and a lot of this may be skewed because of that. He is alleged to be a person named Harold Covington, who has been going hot and heavy against NA.


    To All Racially Aware Aryans:

    I have devoted long and careful consideration to the writing of this open letter to the entire White racial nationalist movement on the subject of the National Alliance, and the reasons for my termination of my own involvement with the Alliance. I have decided that it is a duty I cannot shirk, however vicious and hysterical the reaction it will inevitably provoke. Silence can kill, and I am convinced that silence on the subject of the NA's many problematical aspects may yet kill our race.

    It is customary in these kinds of monologues to go into a long and very personal recounting of the whole history of one's involvement, naming names and pointing fingers, and how one realized that involvement was a mistake. I have decided not to do this, in deference to the many fine and devoted people that I met in the Alliance, some of whom are still with the group and who will unquestionably denounce and revile me for breaking ranks and saying out loud what we all know in our hearts: that our precious Emperor Dr. Pierce has no clothes. I am not here to tell my story, but only my conclusions, conclusions I have arrived at only with the greatest of soul-searching, sadness, and reluctance.

    I will simply say that I phased out my own active participation in Alliance activities in 1997, when as a member of the NA's "cyber-cell" I was ordered by then NA cyber-czar Vincent Breeding to devote all of my activities towards attacking a well-known critic of Dr. Pierce on the Internet, to the exclusion of all racial matters. I resigned from the Alliance in December of 2000 because I could no longer reconcile my continued membership with the persistent and absolute failure of Dr. Pierce to provide me with an explanation of the Hendrik Möbus affair, either personally or through a general discussion with the membership.

    It is time to puncture the deceptive and egregious myth of the National Alliance as being the self-proclaimed "foremost racist organization in the world". It is nothing of the kind.

    The National Alliance is neither a political nor a racial organization. It is a cult, the purpose of which is to provide a comfortable lifestyle and retirement for its guru-like leader. A failed academic named Dr. William L. Pierce originally founded it under the name "National Youth Alliance" in 1970. Pierce makes much of being a former aide to the late Commander George Lincoln Rockwell. In fact, I have learned since my departure that Pierce was in fact expelled from the original National Socialist White People's Party in that year by the then Commander of the NSWPP, Matt Koehl, for incompetence and theft of Party funds.

    Pierce, as I mentioned, has made some to-do about his past as an alleged former aide to Commander George Lincoln Rockwell. In point of fact Rockwell disliked Pierce personally as an intellectual totally lacking in the personal, physical courage which Rockwell so admired in men. Veterans of the Rockwell period in Arlington recall Pierce with derision. "He would show up at rallies, when he showed up at all, in his own car and wearing a suit, trying to hide in the crowd," recalled one former ANP Stormtrooper. "We called him Mr. Peabody after the cartoon character. He was an arrogant SOB and looked down on anyone who worked with their hands or who didn't have a string of college degrees."

    Insofar as anyone can determine, Dr. William L. Pierce, who is now aged 65, has never actually worked a day in his life, with the possible exception of waiting tables or something of the kind when he was in college. Ever since 1966, he has lived off the donations of White racial nationalists, which he has collected, through various mail order bookselling schemes, businesses and fund-raising scams. He has other, less reputable sources of income as well, as the record will show.

    The National Alliance has been called "a racist version of Scientology", and the comparison is not inapposite. A large part of the group's time and effort and resources are devoted towards harassing, annoying, and discrediting former NA members who break with the group, along with anyone who publicly criticizes certain financial wheeling and dealings and general skullduggery on the part of Pierce and some of his clique.

    Despite what they tell you, not only is the National Alliance not the "foremost racist organization in the world", but they are in fact one of the smallest and most ill-regarded of the many sects and factions which make up the American racial right. Pierce and several of the lesser left-wing "monitoring groups" have recently claimed that there has been a dramatic increase in National Alliance membership, but like so many of Pierce's claims, this does not appear to be born out by the facts.

    At any given time, there are less than 400 actual members throughout the world. Their mailing list at its height in 1993 (when it was stolen and passed around the Movement like a bag of popcorn) was only 2,000 names, some of them subscribers to the cult's irregular magazine but mostly of people who simply ordered books from their mail order catalog once or twice. The A.D.L., who claim to monitor Pierce closely, recently stated that even this list was now down to about 1,500 people. One recent defector from Hillsboro, Sam Van Rensburg, recently revealed that actual signed-on membership is about 200. According to former NA secretary and Pierce confidante Evelyn Hill (yes, even Ev eventually had enough and left), the NA is mostly maintained now by a core group of about 50 hard-core, wealthy financial supporters whom Pierce has accumulated down through the years, and who continue to support Pierce despite his total failure to produce anything remotely resembling tangible political results in over three decades of the group's existence.

    In actual fact, the National Alliance is regarded with extreme suspicion and derision by the bulk of the Aryan racial nationalist movement, which in its aggregate numbers probably between 50,000 and 75,000 active people. The NA's 400 is a drop in the bucket. Most groups ban NA members from their meetings, and refuse to have anything to do with the NA, often due to the violently anti-Christian nature of some of their rhetoric, but also due to the strange and erratic behavior usually exhibited by their members.

    National Alliance members have gained a reputation for being among the nuttiest people in the Movement as well as the most personally repulsive. Many National Alliance members seem to suffer from the psychiatric condition known as "hebrephenia", which may be politely described as poor bodily hygiene. More bluntly, one Klan group banned their local NA representative from their gatherings because "he smelled like a goat and no one could persuade him to take a bath." National Alliance members seem without exception to be either extremely thin or extremely overweight, although there are exceptions like the narcissistic Kevin Alfred Strom. Strom, indeed, is so proud of his physique that he posted semi-nude pictures of himself in his underwear pulling "beefcake" poses on his own personal web site.

    National Alliance members have been involved time and again down through the years in bizarre incidents of neurotic and strange behavior, some of them illegal. One of the more prominent examples of this is the bizarre suicide of NA Colorado state Chairman Theon Tomcheff in 1993. Tomcheff staged a drunken standoff with police in the street in front of his house, waving a gun in the air, then fled inside and blew his own brains out. Hardly an "Earl Turner" style exploit! In addition, the National Alliance has developed a reputation down through the years for being--how can I put this delicately--sexually ambivalent? On one occasion a former National Alliance member wrote, "I was in the NA for over a year, until I became increasingly uncomfortable over the fact that I was the only person in my cell who was a married man with a family. All of the rest were strange, geeky men who either appeared to me to be homosexuals or who could barely refrain from ogling my wife, kept on asking me how she was in bed, that kind of revolting behavior. Many of them used pornography and brought it to NA unit meetings to pass around. I think I was probably the only cell member out of a dozen who was sexually normal. There was this aura of sickly misogyny and homoeroticism over the whole thing. I just got bad, bad vibes off the whole outfit."

    William Pierce expelled one NA headquarters staffer, Sam Van Rensburg, for allegedly asking female callers to the HQ for phone sex. However, Pierce maintains as his North Carolina representative a man who is notorious for beating the women and whose abuse of both his American first wife and his Russian mail order bride were notorious and are legally documented in the second wife's divorce papers. Van Rensburg maintains that his expulsion was due to his questioning the uses to which donated funds were put and also because he attempted to get information regarding the most forbidden topic of all, the exact legal structure of the NA and what procedures were to be followed in the event of Pierce's death or incapacitation. As in all
    absolute monarchies, it is high treason to speak of the death of the king.

    One of the NA's most cult-like features is a pervasive dishonesty, a lack of respect for the truth. This, along with their complete lack of respect for the rights of others (most especially the rights of others to disagree with them and criticize them and their leader) leads to excessive and hysterical behavior of the kind we have witnessed for the past several years. Cult members who attempt to leave are slandered, smeared, insulted, harassed with phone calls and threats, their property is vandalized and other acts of petty criminality are directed against them, apparently in aneffort to intimidate them into silence.

    The NA like to pretend that they are a revolutionary vanguard" in the manner of Earl Turner, the hero of Dr. Pierce's fictional novel THE TURNER DIARIES, but the fact is that another outstanding characteristic of the National Alliance in real life is extreme physical cowardice. Dr. Pierce himself has fled into hiding on at least two occasions to rather than accept moral responsibility when someone has attempted to put his book into practice. Nor is the cult's obnoxious practice of filing nuisance lawsuits against critics exactly a shining example of Viking-like heroism.

    Another interesting topic of speculation is the source of an apparently almost bottomless flow of cash into the National Alliance coffers. When Pierce lost a lawsuit to Morris Dees in 1996, in Bryson City, North Carolina, and was assessed hundreds of thousands of dollars in civil judgements and court costs, Pierce simply wrote Dees a check and paid him off! Pierce regularly comes up with huge sums, such as the $200,000 necessary to buy the rights and inventory to George Burdi's Resistance Records (which Pierce then proceeded to run into the ground.) We have already mentioned the "Big Fifty" referred to by Evelyn Hill, but there have also been repeated rumors down through the year that Pierce plays the stock market with his supporters' funds, which is just as much a form of gambling as David Duke's riverboat junkets.

    But worse than all of the above, there have been a number of sinister incidents in the past sixteen years or so which indicate that Dr. William L. Pierce has made an active arrangement with the racial enemy. This manifests itself in an apparently near-complete immunity from the ordinary processes of criminal and civil law enjoyed by no other citizen of this country. The examples of this bizarre immunity from the law are almost too many to mention, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to explain away this long parade of suspicious incidents in any way that's consistent with Pierce's innocence:

    There is the 1993 incident where one of Pierce's associates, now resident in North Carolina, apparently set up two licensed Class Three gun dealers in Virginia Beach for a bust at the behest of the BATF.

    The same mysterious Pierce associate was wanted for questioning in two serious incidents of sending explosive devices in the mail to Christian groups. The Federal investigation by the postal inspectors was dropped.

    The same mysterious Pierce associate was able to quash a state grand jury subpoena in connection with a 1995 multiple homicide in North Carolina. There seems to be some question as to this man's actual identity; recent research by a cult victim with the resources to hire private investigators has revealed that the one he uses in the NA is false. (The investigators were also warned off very sternly by the authorities when they started getting too close.)

    Dr. Pierce has an inexplicable ability to enter Germany, travel about freely at will, even give speeches to political groups and interviews to news people, a privilege which is granted to no other right-wing "leader". The German authorities have gone so far as to kidnap American citizens for violating their censorship laws. So why does Pierce get to stroll through Germany at will? Interestingly, Pierce's last little German walkabout was followed by a spate of over 100 arrests of NPD members and others, almost all of whom had met with Pierce in the previous weeks.

    In 1998 two convicted bank robbers, Brian Pickett and Todd Van Biber, testified in open court and also to a Federal grand jury in Tampa, Florida as to how they committed a series of bank heists in New England, and on their way back home to Florida they stopped off at the National Alliance headquarters compound in Hillsboro, West Virginia and dumped paper bags full of stolen cash onto Pierce's desk in his office. So far as anyone is aware, Pierce was never even questioned by the FBI about these allegations.

    The most recent, and in many people's eyes the most egregious example of this startling immunity to the law was provided by the grotesque Hendrik Möbus incident. Leaving aside the question as to whether or not an ostensibly Aryan racialist organization should be supporting and promoting Satanic rock music (that will really rally the masses around us, eh what?), it is more than time that Dr. Pierce gave us all a clear, ncise, and detailed explanation as to how it comes that the United States Marshalls Service knew that a wanted Federal fugitive was staying on the NA property in Hillsboro for a full two months, and yet did not enter the property to arrest him and only served the Federal fugitive warrant when Möbus left the property for a grocery run. Pierce's consistent refusal to address this subject at all is, to my mind, the clearest indication yet that he dare not address it, and that there are skeletons in Pierce's closet which render him morally unfit to hold any leadership position in the Aryan movement, or indeed be associated with it at all.

    Pierce's latest project is of a piece with much of what he has done over the past twenty years, i.e. demanding money from Aryan racial nationalists to improve his own personal property. His latest boondoggle is a demand that we pony up $40,000 to build a "meeting hall" on the compound grounds. How, exactly a meeting hall way out in the back of the beyond, about as faras it is possible to get from anywhere on this continent, will be of benefit to the ultimate survival of the White race, is not explained.

    What, exactly, will happen to all that land and all those buildings and all that computer gear and all those books when Pierce dies, or as now seems likely, when he is no longer able to conduct his own affairs due to his advancing Alzheimer's? This we are not told. Who is Pierce's designated successor? How will the transition to a post-Pierce National Alliance be handled? We are not told. We are simply asked to keep on sending money to a post office box and to trust in some kind of deus ex machina revelation yet to come. It is ironic that Pierce has criticized Christianity as a "pie in the sky when you die" religion. In the case of the NA cult's theology, even the pie when Pierce dies seems a very dubious proposition.

    Ex National Alliance members have come to me since my departure from the cult and asked what can be done. My answer is simple: nothing. And nothing SHOULD be done. The National Alliance is a dead end into which we all strayed and in which we all wasted entirely too much time, money, and effort. I wish Dr. Pierce a happy and comfortable retirement, and my genuine best wishes that he may retain his health as long as possible. If others choose to finance that retirement, that is their decision. My decision is that I will no longer have anything to do with this particular dead end, nor will I send William Pierce one more thin dime. You now know my reasons for this decision, and I leave you to yours.

    Regards to all,
    Brad

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    Post "Phlegethon" Just a few corrections.

    I know that the Varg interference in the essay is untrue, first of all his incarcerated in Norway and not Sweden. I wouldn't go so far to describe him skinhead really. that would be to simple to say. his a proud odinist. and he never supported Dr pierce from what I know!. about Moebus when did he escape from Germany? all he did was kill some fag in his teenage years with his band members one day in the forest. amazing his still in jail. must be that Jewish book published about the murder back then and his strong detest for society still talking to judges advantage in holding him inmate, in the name of Deutschland law.

    Moebus is really an interesting personality if ever studied him.

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    As many of you know, I'm not a great believer in political possiblities at this stage. I feel we are just beginning to establish our ideological underpinnings....

    But ....

    ...if Nazz's Aryan Folks' Party is ever to be formed, there are dozens of lessons here on how NOT to do things.

    Cult of Personality - It's way too soon to be looking for national leaders, especially cult-like leaders. People suited to this will rise to the occasion with the need. There's no reason to believe that we are anything but foot soldiers preparing the way.

    Personal Financial Gain - This is just desipicable. Better to starve than to expect money from the cause.

    Financial Trickery - Meticulous accounting is a must. For both internal morale and legal purposes, money matters should be closely monitored by the council, a treasurer and an auditor.

    Dishonesty with in the Organization - Bad idea. Every one knows how inspiring our dishonest politcians are. If leadership can't inspire trust, it will have no followers. This is not to say that outright lies are not sometimes necessary (especially in counter-intelligence). This also means leadership by example. If you will to lead, then be prepared to share the risk.

    Instigation to Violence - Another bad idea. Except for reasonable self-defense, offensive actions will land us in jail.

    Moral Interpitude - I know that many here are Nietzscheans, as am I. But, we need also to recognize that most on the racial right and conservative right are "morally Christian". They are a strange mix of moral conservativsm and positivism. It's an environment that politicians are running away from...it's also an environment not in total agreement with our tenets...But it's the environment we must operate in. This means politely rejecting the religious right while usurping their concerns. (Make them turn to US for their agenda.) Ultimately, it is an environment we will change...but in the short term it is our most likely constituency (remember Franco's alliance with the Catholic right).

    What this means is that we must be morally and impeccably 'righteous' (in their eyes). It also means that embarrassing examples must be expelled from the movement.

    The Cadre Principle: Rock solid devotees to the cause, with stable mind, and preferably with military experience are more important than rank-and-file. With out them the rank-and-file is unruly. They need not be geniuses. An Army with out obediant and experienced sergeants will not well follow an officer corps. A system of training and indoctrination of core party members runs hand-in-hand with this.
    ---

    If these allegations are true, I would not be surprised. My America has produced a large crop of wackos and cultists. Just as well. Examples to learn from.

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    Thanks OnionPeeler for your advice, I agree on all points, especially on the point regarding Morality. We live in Societies that through their Moral Relativism have landed us into Moral Anarchy, the destruction of any solid Moral Guidance. I am totally against this because it is one of the causes but also results of a degenerate Society. Obviously our whole Morality must be based on what benefits our Race, for example Multicultural Idiots would find it immoral to deport non-Whites, we definitely would not because it is of benefit to our Race.

    By the way what's Positivism?

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    Originally posted by OnionPeeler


    Cult of Personality - It's way too soon to be looking for national leaders, especially cult-like leaders. People suited to this will rise to the occasion with the need. There's no reason to believe that we are anything but foot soldiers preparing the way.
    Life what happened to his dead?

    dead what happened to his life?

    Those among those who walk the path shall lead the others in the shadow.

    Personal Financial Gain - This is just desipicable. Better to starve than to expect money from the cause.
    When people see others sacrifice them selves (it should hopefully influence others in positive social ways for fellow and gathered prosperity)

    Financial Trickery - Meticulous accounting is a must. For both internal morale and legal purposes, money matters should be closely monitored by the council, a treasurer and an auditor.
    yes and so it will.

    Dishonesty with in the Organization - Bad idea. Every one knows how inspiring our dishonest politcians are. If leadership can't inspire trust, it will have no followers. This is not to say that outright lies are not sometimes necessary (especially in counter-intelligence). This also means leadership by example. If you will to lead, then be prepared to share the risk.
    in order to avoid dishonesty must people trust each other and take some chances but well aware that dishonesty gets punished severely.

    Instigation to Violence - Another bad idea. Except for reasonable self-defense, offensive actions will land us in jail.
    Hmmm

    Moral Interpitude - I know that many here are Nietzscheans, as am I. But, we need also to recognize that most on the racial right and conservative right are "morally Christian". They are a strange mix of moral conservativsm and positivism. It's an environment that politicians are running away from...it's also an environment not in total agreement with our tenets...But it's the environment we must operate in. This means politely rejecting the religious right while usurping their concerns. (Make them turn to US for their agenda.) Ultimately, it is an environment we will change...but in the short term it is our most likely constituency (remember Franco's alliance with the Catholic right).
    As Dr Szandor once said: you can either have a open agenda and take the risk or you can manipulate the sheep's from your secret throne and envy your self for your creative skills

    What this means is that we must be morally and impeccably 'righteous' (in their eyes). It also means that embarrassing examples must be expelled from the movement.
    there shall be heirship but regards for the individual and all psychopaths we need to straighten out from the beginning.

    The Cadre Principle: Rock solid devotees to the cause, with stable mind, and preferably with military experience are more important than rank-and-file. With out them the rank-and-file is unruly. They need not be geniuses. An Army with out obediant and experienced sergeants will not well follow an officer corps. A system of training and indoctrination of core party members runs hand-in-hand with this.
    well why let the opposed system first indoctrinate & discipline them when we could do that our selves.

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    stems from the empirical conclusion that sense and perception are the only sources of 'knowledge'.

    With Comte and others, it professes a stress on 'action' regulated by 'science' with mathematics at the top.

    In PRACTICE, however, history, sociology and psychology and finally emotional idealism tend to dominate. The hard sciences are shunned (Darwin is too harsh for them). It ends up being a happy-happy, feel good justification to mass politics.

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    Post I am investigating

    I am now reading "The Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds." I will give my final statement after I am finsihed, but I will say this now: the foreign wife is no secret. However, they met on the internet. From what I gather, he did not "buy" her. That "essay" is misleading. Also, I have heard people say Covington is no good and is only out to divide WNs. More later.

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    Post Re: ´Some strange essays i found on the net concerning Dr pierce

    Richard Barrett is a nutcase, IMO. My boyfriend used to be one of his international correspondents, and Barrett would write the articles himself and put his correspondents names' on them. :erm

    Barrett wrote an essay saying all sorts of things against Russian skinheads, and put Szacsi Farkas as the author. Russian skinheads aren't strangers to visiting Hungary for concerts- what if a group of them decided they wanted to kick Szacsi's ass for what they thought he wrote? Barrett potentially endangered someone, because he can't be a man and stand by his own words!

    Barrett sent me a letter saying Slavs, regardless of their race, don't belong in America. But one of comrades on the Nationalist Movement© website looks like a fucking SOUTH AMERICAN INDIAN!

    http://www.nationalist.org/signboard/signboard.html

    Let's be anti-communists, bash Russians but associate with nonwhite Armenoids from GEORGIA- Stalin's homeland.. eyes:

    Originally posted by HELLSTAR
    According to Richard Barrett, "There were two figures who the Jewish Lobby had touted in an attempt to portray American rightists as Hitler-worshipers: Richard Butler and William Pierce. The
    path to pro-majority social reform, based on pure patriotism and pure blood, is no longer marginalized or distracted by such diversion." Pierce, a self-professed atheist, had "made his mark, but it was not a red, white and blue one."

    In 1969, Pierce had pilfered the mailing list of the National Youth Alliance, the organization founded in Washington, DC by Barrett to carry on the efforts of Youth for Wallace, which he chaired. When Barrett left the capital to attend law school, Pierce used the list -- and the name -- to distribute a newsletter adulating Hitler, which, also, called for the assassination of public officials. Pierce, also,
    changed his name to National Alliance, which he ran as a sole proprietorship.

    (Editor's note: Son of a---! We didn't know this bit of info!!! Of course, Barrett has a habit of skewering the truth, so we cannot say what role he had in all of this for certain. I do notice that the name of Willis Carto is left out of this, and it has been well known that Pierce and Carto was at war over this list controversy for years.--DLJ)
    eyes: eyes: eyes:
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    hey hey you make it look like I wrote that. I never wrote that,
    some anti fag wrote that, I just quoted the article as stated above.

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    That first article I read before, only on the 'crosstar' site. Any article which directly quotes Richard Barrett comes straight from his "movement." No one else would bother quoting him...

    Originally posted by HELLSTAR
    hey hey you make it look like I wrote that. I never wrote that,
    some anti fag wrote that, I just quoted the article as stated above.

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