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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaico
    Well I don't think this study is reliable at all, but Huzar you cannot deny it only because you don't like the results. Perhaps Northern Italy is full of Southern Italians, but Northern Spain is also full of Southern Spaniards, especially Catalonia, the Basque Country and Galicia.

    And I don't really understand why you find it so hard to believe that Northern Spain is probably more "Nordic" than Northern Italy, taking into account that Italy received much more Neolithic influence than Spain. Not that I really care as I am a Mediterranid Galician.
    Galaico, do you think are there more blondes in Galicia and the Basque Country than S. Spain? I don't think so; Sevilla is a good example

    P.S.: my grandparents were "germanic" andalusians

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Are you[s] talking about Europe, or about Spain/Italy?

    There were 3 waves into Europe:
    1) Caucasoid races (Nord, Medit, Alpin, Balt, Dinar)
    2) Indo-European peoples (Ital, Hellen, Germ, Celt, Balt, Slav)
    3) Germanic tribes (Visigoths, Suebi, Lombards, Anglo-Saxons, Rus/Varangians, Franks, etc)

    N Italy: Lombard/Ostrogoth, Mediterranean, Italic, (Celts), neolithic.
    n Spain :Visigoth/Suebi/Vandal, Mediterranean, (Celts, Romans), palaeolithic.

    Whether the division is N v S or/& W v E, for quite a while now I myself have favoured a Eur-Asiatic (brachy incl Alp, Dinar, Balt) & Eur-African (dolicho incl Nord, Medit, Paleolithic, neolith) division. Some have 3 not 2 divs: Medit, Alp, Nord.

    I asked question in Semites Armenoid or Mediterranean whether evidence is that masters/chosen were Eur-Afr or/and Eur-Asi but only response was accusing it of being myth not serious science.

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Again, let me reiterate, past studies based on one marker on the Y-chromosome have found an East-West split in Europe (such as R1b in west, R1a in east).

    However, this is a brand new test that looks at hundreds of markers. It gives a much clearer picture of the overall genetic variation in Europe.

    At this stage, with some 400 markers taken into account, there looks to be a north-south split in Europe.

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Germanic Andalusians? Now, seriously...
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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    where is the drawing line between N.France and S.France?

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by dazed&confused
    where is the drawing line between N.France and S.France?
    They are trying to establish a difference between the dark-haired mediterranean Marseille and Charles´s the Great Strasbourg. French all!

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercator
    Galaico, do you think are there more blondes in Galicia and the Basque Country than S. Spain? I don't think so; Sevilla is a good example
    Well I'm not very sure, according to some studies the blondest region in Spain is the Aragonese Pyrenees (30%), and where you find more eye blondism is in Northern Navarra. In my personal experience, in Southern Galicia and North Portugal, eye and hair blondism are very common, aswell as in parts of Catalonia.
    Anyway, as Huzar said in a previous post, Spain is quite homogeneus as a whole, perhaps not genetically, but phenotypically (at least in pigmentation).

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Weg
    Germanic Andalusians? Now, seriously...
    Well, it's not a scientific classification

    Galaico: thanks for the info

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzar
    Italian population can't be considered like a unique block belonging to southern Europe. It's partially central european.
    Upon reading similar stuff my question is: what are you afraid of? Are you perhaps afraid that most people would consider Italy a "mediterranean" nation? Well, i've got news: they do! Not only does it's geographical location force that conclusion but also it's culture, it's people, etc.
    Now, I understand some people try to enforce the North Italy/South Italy divide, and I have no position in that discussion (futhermore, i'm not italian) but the whole "mediterranean shame" act is a bit pityful; it almost seems like people are ashamed of being branded "mediterranean" or "mediterranid". What's wrong with them, perhaps some twisted inferiority complex? Please....
    That people breed with those they find attractive within their own ethnic population is all the eugenics I think is necessary. - Milesian

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    Re: North/South genetic divide in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by dazed&confused
    where is the drawing line between N.France and S.France?
    Traditionally, it's the Loire river. But it's not that accurate.
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