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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Don't confuse Britain with socialist, backward third world communist scruffy New Labour shit hole Britain. One revels in the third and communist world, the other doesn't.
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    This story is utter garbage. It's just another example of the usless nature of the British press. I have no idea how anyone can hold them up as a reliable source.

    It reminds of stories circulated by them just before the World Cup, in which they claimed Polish football fans would pick fights, and even hunt down, English supporters. Nothing of the sort happened, and the Poles even won awards for being the best fans at the World Cup.

    Just as a side note, Polish migration to the British Isles is A LOT older than most people realise.

    Many of the Vikings that colonised England and Scotland during the middle ages were in fact Slavs from Poland and Pomerania.

    For example, one of England's earliest rulers was Canute the Great, who was half Polish.

    When he first launched his conquest of Saxon Britain he was helped by Polish warriors sent in by his uncle, the Polish King.

    Indeed, there were many waves of Viking invasions on the British Isles, and quite a few Poles and Pomeranians took part in them. That's because there was a close relationship between north Slavs and Vikings.

    For example, when the when Poles subdued Jomsborg, the Polish ruler was nominated the Jarl of this famous Viking base, and there were more Slavs there than Scandinavians.

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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    Just as a side note, Polish migration to the British Isles is A LOT older than most people realise.
    That doesn't matter, since it is about culture shifting and such waves nofpeople we can see nowadays in everycountry are only possible because of modern transportation and information.
    The amount of people migrating is just huge and will give a cultural shift, it will be neither polish nor english, just look at the US and their struggle with culture.
    This was way different in former times.
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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    That doesn't matter, since it is about culture shifting and such waves nofpeople we can see nowadays in everycountry are only possible because of modern transportation and information.
    The amount of people migrating is just huge and will give a cultural shift, it will be neither polish nor english, just look at the US and their struggle with culture.
    This was way different in former times.
    You seem to be a bit mixed up there. The changes were much more rapid, extreme and even violent in former times.

    Britain went from being Celtic, to Roman, to Saxon very quickly. Then came the Danes and Normans.

    Often the numbers of people involved were much greater as a % of the existing population then they are today, and they were much more intent on imposing their ways.

    Are you saying there will soon be a struggle between Polish and English languages in Britain, just like when the Normans invaded and there was a French vs Anglo-Saxon struggle? You sir, must surely be having a joke right about now. The only cultural shift you'll see is that the British will become more aware of where Poland is exactly, and also maybe develop a taste for Polish food.

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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    Often the numbers of people involved were much greater as a % of the existing population then they are today, and they were much more intent on imposing their ways.
    Well, yes, and we can see what happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak View Post
    Are you saying there will soon be a struggle between Polish and English languages in Britain, just like when the Normans invaded and there was a French vs Anglo-Saxon struggle?
    Yes and No, certainly not in England as a whole, but in isolated districts will the english language fade and a froeign language will takes it place, have you been to Berlin Kreuzberg once?

    I am not particuallarily talking about Poles, but any massive number of foreigners with different cultural background.
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    Re: Poles soon to outnumber Irishmen in Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Well, yes, and we can see what happened.


    Yes and No, certainly not in England as a whole, but in isolated districts will the english language fade and a froeign language will takes it place, have you been to Berlin Kreuzberg once?

    I am not particuallarily talking about Poles, but any massive number of foreigners with different cultural background.
    Unfortunately, and I say this as a Pole, we don't seem to hold on to our ways in Anglo-Saxon countries too long. By second, third generation, Poles no longer speak Polish at home, or even at all, and intermarry freely with the Anglos. I know this from experience.

    Such ethnic groups as the Italians and Greeks, on the other hand, hold on to their customs, and even seem to stay in their own groups to a large degree.

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