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    Good documentary! Another good one is Alex Jones' Endgame.

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    The erosion of civil liberties is certainly an important and pressing issue in the U.S and Europe, there's no doubt about that.

    However "income tax" is a separate matter. Income tax benefits the poor and less well off much more than the rich, because the lower the income the less an individual pays as a percentage of earnings. If it was abolished it would just mean that government would raise the money through discretionary taxes like taxes an food, clothes, motor vehicles etc. More of theres things the poor use just as much of as the rich so, discretionary taxes of this sort are really taxes on the poor.

    What I'm saying is, is that income tax is a good thing as it lands more heavily on those who can better afford to pay, and the anti-income tax lobby are not to be trusted imo.
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    Aaron Russo is a Jew and Alex Jones married a Jew.

    Enough said.

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    Russo connects the dots from the super-elite (international bankers, upper echelon politicians, globocrats, globalist intellectuals)
    Then why is the movie called America: Freedom to Fascism? It is obvious that the super-elite of the world does not want fascism, because fascism strongly embraces nationalism. And how can you create a totalitarian one world government if there are enormous amounts of nationalism in each country? It would end up just like Yugoslavia.

    As long as the director does not change the title, I can see nothing more in it than just another attempt to further ruin the image of fascism. Because I can tell the difference between fascists and the super-elite, most people here on Skadi can, too, but there are a lot of people who watch the movie, and judge fascism based on this movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocelot View Post
    Then why is the movie called America: Freedom to Fascism? It is obvious that the super-elite of the world does not want fascism, because fascism strongly embraces nationalism. And how can you create a totalitarian one world government if there are enormous amounts of nationalism in each country? It would end up just like Yugoslavia.

    As long as the director does not change the title, I can see nothing more in it than just another attempt to further ruin the image of fascism. Because I can tell the difference between fascists and the super-elite, most people here on Skadi can, too, but there are a lot of people who watch the movie, and judge fascism based on this movie.
    'Fascism' was used due to the fact that the label has been thoroughly discredited in the eyes most peoples, particularly in the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocelot View Post
    As long as the director does not change the title, I can see nothing more in it than just another attempt to further ruin the image of fascism. Because I can tell the difference between fascists and the super-elite, most people here on Skadi can, too, but there are a lot of people who watch the movie, and judge fascism based on this movie.
    It's because there has been a concerted effort in the U.S. by the Republicans to conflate Socialism with Fascism. Most people here, left and right, are ignorant when it comes to the details of political philosophies. The Reublicans have taken advantage of this ignorance and have tarred Democratic welfare state plans with the brush of Fascism (which has totally negative connotations in the U.S.).

    This chicanery is politically motivated and does not make logical or factual sense, but it's widespread amongst the American "right." With the exception of those of us few who are completely out of the mainstream (like most of us Americans who post here), even the American far-right or "ultra-right" lacks nationalistic beliefs. Their world view is usually a combination of fundamentalist Christianity mixed in with materialist Libertarianism a la Ron Paul.

    Bottom line: you should ignore anything written in the U.S. about Fascism, especially if it's written by the America "right." Americans by and large don't even understand what Fascism or nationalism is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Are you (everyone on skadi) for freedom or fascism?
    Although I'm not a totalitarian, I'm more for Fascism than I am for freedom. American "freedom" is nothing but shallow hedonistic materialism sanctified by glittering generalities.

    Our freedom will end up being our downfall, because it has stripped European Americans of any sense of national or cultural unity; we're only supposed to care about our personal freedom, which ultimately has devolved into caring only about money and material possessions. The minority groups have taken advantage of this. They still have group consciousness, and they are using our freedom arguments and our "white guilt" to coerce us into national cultural suicide. They (NAACP, La Raza, Black Panthers, etc) act with their group / nation in mind; we act on the basis of the individual's right to pursue "happiness", which typically means materialism (the exception is the Marxist left-wing elite, who fully understand that multiculturalism is a weapon against the west and is using our beliefs in "freedom" as the Trojan Horse for multiculturalism). Worse, most of us aren't even aware of the group think of the other, more ethnically aware groups competing for our country.

    The only way that traditional Germannic American society will prevail is if we recognize that we need to discard our believe that individual civil rights are paramount. We need national awareness and concerted group action. Such action is more akin to Fascism than to "freedom." The freedom can return after we have won the struggle and defended our nation. Then we'll have a new Constitution that explicity states that our country is of, by, and for European Americans and culture, and that any newcomer that we invite in must assimilate or leave.

    I strongly doubt that any of this will happen in the U.S. until it is far too late for us to do anything about it. Nevertheless, it's why I consider Libertarianism (like that espoused by Ron Paul) to be just as dangerous to us as Multicultural, anti-white Social Democracy. Although they differ on economic matters, Libertarianism provides the ethical and moral arguments that empower Social Democracy's cultural takeover. Culture is more important than economics, and the party that wins the cultural argument will eventually win the economic argument.

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    Anyone who unlawfully attempts to strip me of my personal freedoms in the name so called racial or cultural unity, or as just a straight up megalomaniacal power grab here in the US has to find me first, and then get past whatever weapons I can bring to bear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runder View Post
    Although I'm not a totalitarian, I'm more for Fascism than I am for freedom. American "freedom" is nothing but shallow hedonistic materialism sanctified by glittering generalities.
    This sums it up fairly well. The whole notion of freedom in the USA, if not in the western world in general, has shifted from being political, religious, and intellectual, to one of the "right" to engage in whatever base immoralities one "chooses".

    Quote Originally Posted by Devin De Blois View Post
    Anyone who unlawfully attempts to strip me of my personal freedoms in the name so called racial or cultural unity, or as just a straight up megalomaniacal power grab here in the US has to find me first, and then get past whatever weapons I can bring to bear.
    Well that's kind of silly considering that in every society people are restricted in their "personal freedoms" by a whole host of laws. Some of the laws that you consider just fine and protective of your rights and freedoms may just as well have caused a certain amount of animosity on the part of those people however long ago upon whom it was forced. As it stands, though, you're far from free; but like most Americans, you believe yourself to be free because it has become such an ingrained notion in the American psyche that "freedom" has become complete divorced from any basis in reality. Keep in mind to that the American concept of freedom was formed at a time the USA was a much more racially and culturally unified nation; if anything the decline in freedom many Americans complain about stems from this gradual shift away from these unifying factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    The erosion of civil liberties is certainly an important and pressing issue in the U.S and Europe, there's no doubt about that.

    However "income tax" is a separate matter. Income tax benefits the poor and less well off much more than the rich, because the lower the income the less an individual pays as a percentage of earnings. If it was abolished it would just mean that government would raise the money through discretionary taxes like taxes an food, clothes, motor vehicles etc. More of theres things the poor use just as much of as the rich so, discretionary taxes of this sort are really taxes on the poor.

    What I'm saying is, is that income tax is a good thing as it lands more heavily on those who can better afford to pay, and the anti-income tax lobby are not to be trusted imo.
    No that is not the best tax system, if you tax people for doing well then people are less inclined to do well. Look at as if you teaching a child, if the child progresses and you spank the child for progressing than the child will no longer progress.

    A flat tax is the only fair system of tax collection, that way everybody is treated the same regardless of rich or poor. That also gives the poor a better chance to become rich if they so desire.
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