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    Quote Originally Posted by Egil Skallagrimsson
    I guess not. Rumspringa is a pretty old custom and I suppose that the elders know what to expect. They can always recall the wildness of their own youth.
    [I love the word. It literally means "jumping around".]
    I lived for a time in rural NE Ohio, where a fairly large Amish community throve. It wasn't unusual to see buggies parked outside of the local bars. Kids would get out with their jeans and t-shirts under their arms, go inside and change, then proceed to drink beer, smoke ciggies and dance. Then, later load back into the buggy, relying on the horse to get them home safely.

    However, there came a time when they had to either give all that up and join fully their community or give up their community and live with the 'English.' Most, left their 'English' ways behind.

    There was, it seemed to me, a broad tolerance for this youthful kicking up of one's heels--but only to a point. Eventually, they were asked to choose.

    It's interesting too to know that out-of-wedlock pregnancy is not at all uncommon. The boy-man and girl-woman stand before their congregation, 'fess up the obvious, and become engaged. There doesn't seem to be any lasting shame to this (nor, in my opinion, ought there to be); more of a "well, you've had your fun, now let's get you hitched so you can keep at it--and, by the way, let's get back to work.'

    They are the only trustworthy christians I have ever met.

    That last is a good lesson for a billion other christian people who are obsessed with regulating, by shame or by government, everyone else's genitals.

    One more thing about the bar-visiting Amish boys--they are known to be accomplished fist-fighters. The term "winky" was, I'm told, so offensive, it nearly guaranteed a brawl.

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    We have some Amish living just outside of town here. They often come into where i work. They are so friendly and polite and who cant have respect for anyone like that.
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    Amish Question!

    I’m curious to know the opinion of the board's members, mainly Americans in relation to the Amish.


    What is the your the opinion in relation to the Amish's lifestyle? Are they a true Germanic preservationist group or only a religious group?


    Well, from Wiki:
    The Amish are united by a common Swiss-German ancestry, language, and culture, and they marry within the Amish community. The Amish therefore meet the criteria of an ethnic group.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
    http://amishamerica.typepad.com/



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    Very nice people, their lifestyle is not for me, but I certainly respect them.

    I would consider any group which conducts a lifestyle which promotes Germanic&closely related ancestries, lifestyles and cultures to be a 'preservationist' group even if they do so for religious rather than racialist reasons.
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    They promote Germanic preservationism but by accident. Their faith requires them to reject modern ways, which helps to preserve the lifestyles of their ancestors from Southwest Germany & Switzeralnd. And because they do not prostylize, they are preserving the genepool of the founding families of the Amish sects. It is rare for someone to marry into the Amish & when it happens it is someone with an Amish heritage but who was not raised in the Amish faith.

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    I like the Amish. In my rather limited dealings with them I have always been pleased with their honesty, hard work, kindness and straightforwardness. I think they are doing a great job of preserving their culture, spirituality and ethnicity. I think that a living culture like this is worth leaning from. Interdependence and independence together with the land and their animals.
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    The Amish live all around me. I buy eggs from one family. They have a little outside refrigerator with the eggs and a money jar. I take the eggs I want, and leave the money in the jar.

    They are all independent farming people, having their own schools and communities. I see the boys maybe age twelve driving a tractor working a field, and the girls the same age working outside also. They all work together, supporting each other. They are like the old preindustrial Germans. They are a very decent hard working people.

    Something else worth mentioning, the Amish are all White, and of European ancestry. A perfect example of how successful we can be when given the freedom to live with our own kind. There are also no Jews all are Christian.
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    I don't know a whole lot about them--but, from what I do know, I like, appreciate and have always respected them for how they live and generally conduct themselves.

    From what I understand, they are having a hard time in certain areas because of suburban encrouchment and basically getting priced out because of land values. I came across this article a few years back about how one group has left PA and headed up to northern Maine where they can find more peaceful, rural solitude.

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/art..._roots?pg=full

    Good for them, I say.


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    Amish are very interesting ones, for sure.

    They give all of their children the opportunity to experience the modern, extern world, anyway. It is called "Rumspringa". After this "rumspringa"-time (where they can explore the modern world, going into clubs, taking drugs, dating others..and so on) they have to decide how they want to life: The Amish way of life or the extern way of life.

    Most of the Amish teenagers decide themselves for the Amish world after the "Rumspringa".

    More infos there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa

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    They seem like ok people, other than the fact I hear there are lots of hidden physical and sexual abuses of children in these communities.

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