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    Re: The amish of New England (U.S.A) are they mostly Nordic?

    There are Amish & Mennonites communities in Southwestern Indiana & it is not unusual to see them in the town of Jasper near where I live. None of the adults are what I would call Nordid. Most have brown hair, sometimes nearly black. They have round or square shapped faces. Most of the men are of medium height none of them appear to be particularly tall & a large percentage of the women, even the young women, wear glasses. Amish women seem to be of smaller statue than none Amish women. I have never seen an obese Amish person so on that count they are healthier than the none Amish.
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    Re: Fastnacht Day: A Pennsylvania Dutch Tradition

    I was thinking of fastnachts when I bought paczkis for me and my daughter. They are 'the' traditional Shrove Tuesday treat in Michigan weither or not you are polish.
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    Post Origins of the Amish

    I have a fascination and a deep respect for the Amish people. The fact that they have refused to 'modernise', and continue with their own way of life, shunning technology, wealth, greed, and all the rest of the crap which exists in the world today, which just makes everyone totally miserable, enslaved and destroys the planet at the same time, i think that anyone who can stick to their own ways like the Amish has to be revered!





    The Amish, called "The Plain People" or Old Order Amish, originated in Switzerland about l525. They came from a division of the Mennonites or Anabaptists (Re-baptizers). They opposed the union of church and state and infant baptism. They baptized people only as adults at about age l8. Adult baptism was a crime in the l6th century. Therefore, the Amish come from an impressive list of martyrs. They were put in sacks and thrown into rivers in Europe. There are no Amish left in Europe; The Amish were saved from extinction by William Penn who granted a haven from religious persecution in America. Since early colonial days the Amish have lived in the United States preserving their distinctive culture, dress, language and religion in peace and prosperity.

    A few years ago they were again accused of crimes -- failing to have their children attend school with state certified teachers or failure to send them beyond the eighth grade. Until the United States Supreme Court in the case of Wisconsin vs. Yoder ruled in l972 that it was unconstitutional to force Amish into high school. The decision was based on the Constitutional legal issues of Parental Rights and Religious Freedom. Since the Amish believe in "turning the other cheek" and do not defend themselves, the National Committee for Amish Religious Freedom and its attorney William B. Ball of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, defended them in court.

    It may seem strange that failing to send children to school past the eighth grade would be a permitted or acceptable practice. But the Amish society is itself a school. They train their young people vocationally -- how to be homemakers and farmers, carpenters, and tradesmen from very early ages. By the time an Amish girl is twelve years old she knows how to cook a meal for a whole crew of Amish workers, and a young man knows farm operations by the time he is a teenager.

    The Amish therefore have practically no unemployment, since their society is a vocational school. The Amish operate one-room parochial schools and are taught by teachers with only an eight-grade education. However, the teachers have learned how to be teachers with on the job training by an older and experienced Amish teacher. The Amish pupils have been tested with standardized tests by the U.S. Office of Education, and the pupils usually perform above the norms when compared to public schools pupils in their communities. The students are not therefore educationally deprived. Furthermore, it is difficult, if not impossible, for a non-Amish teacher to teach the values of humility, quietness, and shunning of technological things like automobiles, television, video games, movies and fashions. Some people think the Amish are ignorant because they shun technology, but the Amish are also making profound statements about the environment. They do not use gasoline, electricity, commercial chemicals, CFCs -- all of which pollute the environment.

    The Amish live in nineteen states, Canada, and Central America. However, 80 percent of the Amish live in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana. The Old Order Amish take their name from an early Swiss Anabaptist, Jacob Amman, who became their strict Bishop and taught them the Amish ethics -- Living non-resistant lives (They do not serve in the military, but only in hospitals or alternate service), with brotherly love, sharing material aid and living close to the soil and following the Bible literally. They cite the Bible which says, "Be ye not conformed to the world" as their chief tenet.

    To this day they endure as a distinctive folk group because they have preserved a mentality of separation from the world and the sentiments of persecuted strangers in the land. They wear plain clothing fastened with hooks and eyes, not buttons. Their men wear broad-brimmed black hats, plain-cut trousers and the women and even little girls wear bonnets and ankle length dresses. They generally oppose automobiles, electricity, telephones and higher education beyond eighth grade.

    Their congregations number only about 300. They worship in homes and not in church buildings. They do not drive cars or ride in airplanes, but drive horses and buggies. This keeps their communities small and close-knit, and their children do not live all over the world. Family values are important to them. They are slow to change and speak the German language along with English. They drive horses and buggies for transportation. They practice "shunning" for any of their members who break their rules.

    Although many people do not understand their simple way of life, the Amish are maintaining a very profound position. They want to be prepared for the world to come rather than for becoming rich or famous in this world. They would rather maintain a close-knit family life than travel all over. The norms and educational goals of our society which stress product centered, high pressure, technological and secular values are antithetical to Amish beliefs. Therefore, they practice old ways, slowness of pace, simplicity, close-knit agrarian living. The 80,000 Old Order Amish oppose higher education because it violates their morals, their religious convictions and takes their children away from the simple ways of the Amish.

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    My grandfather was friendly with the local Amish. They were always polite, nice people. And talk about hard working. When they re-roofed my grandparents house they worked harder than anyone I had ever seen. It was kind of neat. My Grandma made lunch for them and they ate as hearty as they worked.

    Something worth noting is that when there is a tornado or other disaster Amish regularly finish repairing their homes and then go to help their English neighbors before the government can get to it.
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    The Amish are great. It's unfortunate around here though because many of them have had to sell their farms and then developments were built on those lands.

    My wife's aunt works with many Amish people to help them keep their farms so they don't have to sell them.

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    I remember seeing Amish folk in rural Indiana and Ohio. They were kind and unpretentious. I don't know if I could give up modern conveniences as they do but I find a lot to admire about their lifestyle.

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    The times, they are a-changing

    In recent years,I have seen Amish families, still in their distinctive traditional dress, travelling by railroad . In one such family, there was a rebellious teenager whose plain black jacket had been adorned with white piping on all the edges and who carried and ostentatiously used a cell. 'phone. Whom did he find to talk to, I wonder ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egil Skallagrimsson
    In recent years,I have seen Amish families, still in their distinctive traditional dress, travelling by railroad . In one such family, there was a rebellious teenager whose plain black jacket had been adorned with white piping on all the edges and who carried and ostentatiously used a cell. 'phone. Whom did he find to talk to, I wonder ?
    I wouldn't be surprised if many Amish adolescents on Rumspringa would go a bit haywire, being allowed to sample the outside world "among the English" with all the cellphones and junk food for the first time in their life. I wonder if their parents get embarrassed?

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    Origins of the Amish

    I guess not. Rumspringa is a pretty old custom and I suppose that the elders know what to expect. They can always recall the wildness of their own youth.
    [I love the word. It literally means "jumping around".]

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    I am quite sure that the Hamish people didn't have Rumspringa from the very beginning, so do anyone know how it started?

    I, as most people here, respect the Amish for turning their backs against what ruins our world, while yet being friendly folk.

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