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    Post Are we living in a psychopathic society?

    I'll post some excerpts, but it is an interesting article and I suggest reading the whole thing. I'm not necessarily saying that I agree with it though



    Despite one’s seeming concerns, good intentions are not enough; experts have warned it is time to wake up to a new problem which is running rampant. Whether one calls them antisocials, psychopaths (sociopaths), or even malignant narcissists, psychologists and sociologists claim that a disturbing rise of people with dangerous personality disorders is on the rise, especially among the young. This increase of antisocial disorders is a sign of the times, a “lack of concern coupled with an attitude of moral apathy.” (Wolman, 1999, p. 15).

    Indeed, without morality, one cannot be concerned. Antisocials and psychopaths are very comfortable with their immorality, they are not bothered by it in the least, for “the second primary symptom of psychopathy is the missing or deficient sense of morality.” (Guggenbuhl-Craig, 1980, p. 95).


    In consequence, a society which has become much too lax in its morality will breed nationwide apathy, and such a combination can be deadly, as we have already observed in the rash of school shootings, violent crimes, and alarming antisocial behavior, in general, that also seems to be an imminent, outstanding trait of an entire generation which Dr. Robert Hare refers to as the “cool” (Hare, 1993, p. 177) society.

    Often witnessed in pop culture through the media, there is a disturbing glorification of “coolness,” apparent apathy, and disinterest regarding the safety or welfare of others, for “we are certainly making it much easier for the psychopaths in our midst to express themselves in ways that would have been considered intolerable or socially unacceptable in the past” (Hare, 1999, p. 177), as “more and more people care for no one except themselves. More and more people have no moral commitments. . .No feelings of remorse, no sense of guilt--an epidemic of sociopaths.” (Wolman, 1999, p. 31).


    Worse yet, rap seems to be one of the most popular forms of pop music these days; far outrivaling the “Mansonites” or the pop music “Lolitas” like Spears and her imitators, “rap expresses the worst kind of images emerging from a postmodern society that has consigned a generation of young men and women to the darkest dramas of the desperately lost.” (Fields, 1998).

    Another dangerous element of rap music is its inherent “misogyny. . .alienation from common humanity and community. The lyrics employ vulgar street idioms because both the language and experience of poetry or romance are absent from the lives of the rappers and their audience as well.” (Fields, 1998).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanessa
    I'll post some excerpts, but it is an interesting article and I suggest reading the whole thing. I'm not necessarily saying that I agree with it though



    [i]Despite one’s seeming concerns, good intentions are not enough; experts have warned it is time to wake up to a new problem which is running rampant. Whether one calls them antisocials, psychopaths (sociopaths), or even malignant narcissists, psychologists and sociologists claim that a disturbing rise of people with dangerous personality disorders is on the rise, especially among the young. This increase of antisocial disorders is a sign of the times, a “lack of concern coupled with an attitude of moral apathy.” (Wolman, 1999, p. 15).

    Sounds like you Vanessa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    Sounds like you Vanessa.
    :giggle Gee, thanks a lot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanessa
    I'll post some excerpts, but it is an interesting article and I suggest reading the whole thing. I'm not necessarily saying that I agree with it though



    Despite one’s seeming concerns, good intentions are not enough; experts have warned it is time to wake up to a new problem which is running rampant. Whether one calls them antisocials, psychopaths (sociopaths), or even malignant narcissists, psychologists and sociologists claim that a disturbing rise of people with dangerous personality disorders is on the rise, especially among the young. This increase of antisocial disorders is a sign of the times, a “lack of concern coupled with an attitude of moral apathy.” (Wolman, 1999, p. 15).

    Indeed, without morality, one cannot be concerned. Antisocials and psychopaths are very comfortable with their immorality, they are not bothered by it in the least, for “the second primary symptom of psychopathy is the missing or deficient sense of morality.” (Guggenbuhl-Craig, 1980, p. 95).


    In consequence, a society which has become much too lax in its morality will breed nationwide apathy, and such a combination can be deadly, as we have already observed in the rash of school shootings, violent crimes, and alarming antisocial behavior, in general, that also seems to be an imminent, outstanding trait of an entire generation which Dr. Robert Hare refers to as the “cool” (Hare, 1993, p. 177) society.

    Often witnessed in pop culture through the media, there is a disturbing glorification of “coolness,” apparent apathy, and disinterest regarding the safety or welfare of others, for “we are certainly making it much easier for the psychopaths in our midst to express themselves in ways that would have been considered intolerable or socially unacceptable in the past” (Hare, 1999, p. 177), as “more and more people care for no one except themselves. More and more people have no moral commitments. . .No feelings of remorse, no sense of guilt--an epidemic of sociopaths.” (Wolman, 1999, p. 31).


    Worse yet, rap seems to be one of the most popular forms of pop music these days; far outrivaling the “Mansonites” or the pop music “Lolitas” like Spears and her imitators, “rap expresses the worst kind of images emerging from a postmodern society that has consigned a generation of young men and women to the darkest dramas of the desperately lost.” (Fields, 1998).

    Another dangerous element of rap music is its inherent “misogyny. . .alienation from common humanity and community. The lyrics employ vulgar street idioms because both the language and experience of poetry or romance are absent from the lives of the rappers and their audience as well.” (Fields, 1998).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloysha
    So?
    SO!? SO!? It means society will collapse! Mothers will stop hugging their children! Our old will be left alone in nursing homes without any visitors! All sorts of horrible things will result


    Well if pyschopathy is on the rise, wouldn't that lead to a society where no one cares about the rights of others, where there is no empathy? I don't think that this is true though (psychopathy being on the rise). I can't see it becoming encouraged by our society anymore than schizophrenia!
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    I don't think apathy should be confused with psychosis. Psychosis I think has a biological base whereas apathy is more spiritual.
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    I don't think psychopathy is really a psychosis.

    But I agree with you...how could an apathetic society mean a psychopathic one. I think there would have to be a lot more to it than that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanessa
    I don't think psychopathy is really a psychosis.

    You're probably right. Maybe a neurosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanessa
    SO!? SO!? It means society will collapse! Mothers will stop hugging their children! Our old will be left alone in nursing homes without any visitors! All sorts of horrible things will result


    Well if pyschopathy is on the rise, wouldn't that lead to a society where no one cares about the rights of others, where there is no empathy? I don't think that this is true though (psychopathy being on the rise). I can't see it becoming encouraged by our society anymore than schizophrenia!
    Vanessa, you are very intelligent.

    I have seen what you see... I see it every day, and it also concerns me a lot. I fear we are becoming a heartless species (again). I blame the fall of Eurocentrism for that, mostly, and the fall of a paternalistic attitude and Nordish pride/morals/culture.

    Sometimes I think we have outlived our sell-by date.

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    I've noticed America becoming a psychopathic society. There is even ads onn tv talking about medicines. It is sad how mainstream rx drugs are and is promoting more people to become ill.

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