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    How Have Your Beliefs Changed Over Time?

    I used to be a hardcore libertarian. I still would not reject that label yet now I am most interested in change through existing systems. Ideas like private currencies are best left to theorists. We need policies which can be easily communicated to ordinary people. It's intellectually liberating not to be in the "libertarian straitjacket", instead I can read normal political journals, reports from think tanks etc, and pick & choose which ideas appeal to me, rather than being hyper critical of all government action.

    Another change is my outlook on welfarism. My position now is to support targeted non-financial help towards the very poor - basic food, water, basic shelter, basic apparel. Welfare states as they are now can be massively pared back, but something should be left in place, otherwise the voters will rebel against any reform.

    How have your beliefs changed over time?

    Have the Althing or other related forums been an influence?

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    I grew up in one of the most liberal communities in the United States. My father is a "revolutionary socialist", and the rest of my family and most of my friends are very liberal. I used to be too, until I got out into the world for myself. I am thankful for being raised in a political family though, even though I generally find their views disgusting, because most people around me are more concerned with who is doing well in American Idol or their fantasy football teams than they are with legislation which will mold the rest of their lives. As far as what my views are now, I find the idea of summing up how I feel about such a wide variety of issues that is the political arena by giving a one word label such as democrat, republican, libertarian, capitalist, conservative etc. to be an asinine concept. I prefer to address each individual issue independently. I will write in a vote for Ron Paul in the upcoming election, and I'm big on personal responsibility.

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    I also began my political life as a die hard libertarian, and have always supported non-interventionist military policies. It wasn't until about one year ago (about the same time I began reading Spengler, Yockey and de Benoist) that I became much more in favor of protectionist trade policies, and other nativist and isolationist ideas. Domestically, I think that the less the government has to do with the way I live my life, the better. I do not think that the government should be in the business of enforcing morality, particularly the type of anti-discrimination that now seem to be popping up all over the country. I think that the Federal government should enforce borders and defend the persons and property of the US from violence, and that's about it; all else should be in the hands of local municipalities. In regards to foreign policy, I think that our military should not be used for the benefit of another nation, period. War should only be an option if it is in defense of American citizens and/or territory. Foreign aid of military or monetary nature is criminal and should cease immediately.

    In our upcoming election, I'll be supporting the Constitution Party candidate, Chuck Baldwinn (who is a native of my hometown).
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    What was it Churchill said...? 'If you're 20 and not a liberal you don't have a heart; if you're 40 and not a conservative, you don't have a brain'...something like that.

    I have found in my own life a natural procession from a more 'chaotic' outlook, to a more 'ordered' one. In direct proportion with the progression of my age, and only loosley connected to my intelligence.

    I have been so left that I was right; and so right that I was left, politically. I've tried on all the existing hats - none ever fit.

    In my late twentys, and only then, did I realise the fiction of freedom as proffered by any political system. I had long since accepted 'freedom' at the philosophical level as an illusion; an opiate - but only during this time did the practical ramifications really hit-home. I realised that Machiavelli was right - I realised that the form of government matters very little when compared to the duration of a governmental system. I realised how petty my own idealism with respect to governmental form was. I realised how very selfish I was.

    Then, and only then, did I understand - really cognise - that while democracy is an experiment, Aristocracy is an ethos. And I was saddened. I was saddened by the fact that our princes had failed us in the past so dreadfully. I began a long and in-depth investigation as to where and when Aristocracy tied its own noose. I was saddened to see Aristocracies the world-over diminished to the status of figure-heads, and spineless emotional retards - out of touch with their people. I was saddened by the degeneration of the Aristocratic ethos, and the consumption of all that was left of it that was Good, Right, and Just by the masses.

    Needless to say, this immediately knocked me out of any practical, and currently possible, acceptance of the 2 or 3 types of government that are allowed today.


    Today, I recognise NationalSocialism as at least entering the orbit of what it is that I 'believe'; if only as the catalyst - the electroshock therapy - needed to re-order a geopolitical system that is dreadfully fragile - and tense...

    I am now what can best be described as a MeritAristocracist: he who merits rule, should rule. It is, of course, far more complex than this. However, it is easy enough to sum-up as such. The gargantuan problem with attempting to discuss any form of Aristocracy as 'the way' with pretty much anyone, is that it immediately conjures-up a visceral reaction, and pejorative connotations.

    But I am a patient man. My sons will be patient men; and their sons.

    And so on.
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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    I was left wing scum back when I was ideological. Now I am, if anything, anti-ideological. I can't take seriously anyone's enthusiasm for systems that would work work if they only they were tried more consistently.
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    As a 16 year old I was antifa, communist, anarchist, whatever extreme left-wing theory I felt made sense in a way. Mostly because I didn't like my rightwing father.

    When I gave up on my religion of nihilist atheism and explored heathendom, from there on I began exploring the bond with my ancestors some more. As a fresh heathen I still believed in universalist ideals, but as the bond with my ancestors and gods became closer, so did I advance down a path of traditional nationalism and cultural preservationism.

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    My beliefs haven´t changed over time, honestly. I was apolitical as a young teenager but I became more and more aware of the problems when I became around 16 years old. The problem of multiculturalisation and islamisation in the cities, the lack of traditions and pride there, the sexism and disrespect from immigrants...and so on. I was annoyed by these things and started to grab informations and read political articles. Eventually I got more and more informations about our Germanic history and I found big interest in these stories.

    My whole family is rightwing conservative (but not in a religious way). They didn´t denied or forbid me things when I was a teenager, but we talked about different issues and shared our opinions on several matters. Sometimes we agreed, sometimes not, but I´ve had always the freedom to do what I want. And I did my best to don´t betray their trust.

    So I was apolitical earlier and became rightwing (paleo)conservative with time. No "leftwing"-phase between. :p

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    I used to be a hatemonger and "blame it on the Jews", so to speak, for many years. eyes: In the process, I got involved with the very wrong people, the lowest forms of life, I might say, and suffered a lot from them.

    I very suddenly realized what I was doing wrong sometime between 2005 and 2006, due to a series of unfortunate events that 'opened my eyes' and made me see the hard reality of the situation and not the romanticised ideals I had in my mind.
    Thereafter, I started reversing all the thought patterns that led me to this one-dimensional, stereotypical kind of thinking.
    And yes, theAlthing (then Skadi) helped a lot, especially a few people that gave me valuable insights at given times. Thanks!

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    In young age I wasn't really interested in our political system, because I actually did believe into democracy and considered it the best system possible, and thus were not much eager to change anything.
    I was a racist from the beginning though, even as a young teenager, I would look out for people that I considered "progressive" and wished that those would outnumber the ugly (I had no concept of race, yet I think I was pretty good at spotting the Nordic [in a broader sense than just Halstatt] race and making it my beauty ideal ) however, it wasn't something which I considered political.

    In my senior years of high school I got a history teacher who was very much into direct-democracy, and he was an intelligent and convincing man, and since then my ideal was direct democracy, too. I was very open for his ideas, because at this time I already had an antipathy for parliamentarism.

    With the ongoing years, my racial consciousness developed stronger, and I basically thought about my own ideology, based on race, of course I had contact with Nationalsocialism (you always have if you are a racist in Germany), but at that time I actually considered NS inconsistent, weak and haphazardly dangerous, so I joined Skadi still with my belief in direct democracy, but with a very racial addition
    I never read Mein Kampf, or even better the "Mythus" (Der Mythus des 20. Jahrhunderts, A. Rosenberg), after I did, I was actually quite impressed with NS, to an extent that I really thought about an unconscious bond, because what I logically concluded for my own ideology was similar, but even better and in more detailed, described in the writings of A. Hitler, and A. Rosenberg.
    I realized that the persons I talked to, and who claimed to be NS, were the ones who were inconsistent, weak and haphazardly dangerous.

    And it was then that I became an Aristocrat, NS.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    When I was very young I was influenced by the authoritarian ideals of my parents, whose professions depended upon the politicial systems (both 'left' and 'right' wing) they supported.

    Margaret Thatcher was credited with having reduced the tax bill for our family. At the time of her 'reign' we had two homes and my mother's income from her investments eclipsed the money my father was earning. The Poll Tax was remarkably fair for people with average sized families and savings. My father joking praised Thatcher ("Hurrah for Thatcher!", and "Power to the people!") at the dinner table, but he never really meant it; in those days Churchmen could still believe in that the Church of England was a real force for good and that they were above politics. These days my father would rather read the Catholic newspaper, 'The Tablet', than the Church of England, 'Church Times' which is too political for him.

    Thatcher (who Americanized/Reaganized our economy) brought in Archbishop George Carey as her answer to America's Evangelicals. My father and his friends reacted against that and the Low Church 'happy clappies'. We kept a poker face in public, but our real friends in the church were our High Church friends and this is still the case.

    Everyone we knew seemed to be caught up in this maniacal Thatcher personality cult even if they were unaware of it and it continued for a long time. I was influenced by this.

    The concept of political dissent did not occur for me until quite late. At school there was a National Front supporter who was often vicitimized by the left-wing teachers. At the time it seemed mysterious, but today, looking back, I recognise that voice as my own. Christopher was even dismissed from our history classes. I do wonder where he is today.

    Then, aged fourteen, I entered a 'Bloomsbury' phase. I was interested only in my senses, my photography, my musical compositions, the linguistic machinations of my mind and my paintings. I had rejected politics as a lost cause before I was even aware of politics. There were a number of very vocal left-wing people at my (now closed) school, which was really a failing grammar school and a dumping ground for the children of low to middle-ranking army officers, Africans and Hong Kong Chinese who came to board there. The seeds of my dissent had already been sown; I had rejected the system.

    As always, art speaks, and the beginnings of my interest in the radical right culminated in my expulsion from art school in Bristol amidst accusations that my paintings were being painted by my girlfriend at the time. We were, in fact painting each other paintings, but the accusations were malicious and politically motivated: I wrote a politically very neutral essay about Picasso's Guernica and painted a huge Italo-fascist style painting of a Victorian train station, which was contrived to express gender differences in architectural forms. This was not lost on my bulldyke lesbian painting tutor who became very unpleasant. I was labelled as a disruptive student. I left and completed my year at a private art college, learning a great deal about painting and drawing, with better materials and helpful and apolitical tutors. My political ideas were still in flux.

    I drifted into yoga classes, and became obsessive about this for a while. This continued for about 5 years. During a year out which I took in Edinburgh a British National Party leaflet came through my letterbox and it captured my interest and preciptated an Alice in Wonderland transformation and I became fascinated by nationalism and the compelling arguments for anti-Semitism which seemed to be so logical and rational.

    This ended when on another forum, which we will call 'Borefront', when I was flamed for simply explaining that there are Zionists who have the same views on political economy as many Euro-nationalists and that a political alliance with such movements as well as with secular Arab nationalist movements could be of benefit to us.

    I realized that on that forum there were American White Nationalists who were pro-capitalist and actually opposed to the co-operative economic principles which I found so appealing, and that they seemingly wanted to become the white 'gentile' leaders of a white capitalist imperium, the headquarters of which would be the USA.

    I was also flamed by the BNP's lovely Sharon 'Ebonics' Ebanks, both on 'Borefront' and the BNP forum, which I used to post on.

    This was the point at which unilateral anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism became very boring for me and it was a very important turning point.

    I believe that co-operative economics and economic localism should be employed to potentiate nationalist revolution but I am not opposed to democracy, and I will vote and support nationalism. I now think that preservation is best supported by national anarchist principles, irrespective of the political system.

    I like the BNP's policies, although I would like to see more national-anarchist-type policies in their local manifesto, such as the promotion of local buying co-operatives.

    Retail is a huge sector and both the supermarkets and the cornershops are now the enemy.

    A Britain of small privately-owned and native-owned shops is now a nostaglic pipe-dream which must now be exploded as quickly as possible.

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