View Poll Results: Should Germany regain its land?

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    41 23.43%
  • Territories gained during 1871-1918

    91 52.00%
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    57 32.57%
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    19 10.86%
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Thread: Germany's Lost Land

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    Question Lost Territories

    What is the general opinion among German nationalists on these lost territories. Should the loss be accepted or should Germany strive for the return of the lost lands? Maybe even by military force?
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    Quote Originally Posted by svenskfinsk
    What is the general opinion among German nationalists on these lost territories. Should the loss be accepted or should Germany strive for the return of the lost lands? Maybe even by military force?
    There is no dispute among German nationalists about the return of our Eastern territorries. The opinions on how to get them back differ of course.

    Personally I don´t think we are in a position to solve this now. We first have to get in power and take care of internal problems. Afterwards we will have a look at "Poland". Postponed is not abandoned.
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    My personal opinion is:
    First should there be a freedom for Southern Tyrol in Austria annexing it, then Austrian freedom shall be achieved by its annexation by Germany. Then we can look at Prussia which has to return to the Fatherland of course, by any means. Königsberg, Breslau und Danzig, kehret heim!

    Well, but I agree with Zyklop, we are not in the position, and there are too many internal problems.
    When you have posters like the "Familie Deutschland" one, and as long as $130 Abs. 1-3 (?) are still in force, you can't suspect there to be any German unity.
    And of course our rate of unemployment, with the government too afraid to be "volksverhetzend" if they turn away immigrants. Hel, they give the last remaining work places to foreign workers for shouting "Asyl!", whilst there is not enough work places for German Youths.

    In any case, I see a similar situation approaching like the one just over 70 years ago - too much foreign power, too much unemployment, etc. ; so I'm confident.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Yes of course I'm talking about a time when the internal problems are solved and a nationalist goverment is yet again in place



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    I would hate to see Germans consider those territories as forever lost, just as I hate it to see Finns consider the parts of Finland that are currently under Russian occupation as lost.

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    There are rumours that Russia under Jelzin made the proposal to give Eastern Prussia back to Germany (now Kaliningrad), because they had no real use for it and it costs them a high ammount of money.

    Helmut Kohl has rejected it though, because the Russians wanted 30 billion dollars.

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    The area which is now Poland? Would that mean the Poles be mixed into the current German Population?

    If so.. then :

    If on the contrary, Poles were expelled into further Eastern Europe, well then i would have to say that is a backward road.
    Would seem like de-ja-vu. And nationalist ambition could once again be the downfall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShieldofDanelaw
    And nationalist ambition could once again be the downfall.
    Sad but true.
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    Lost Territories

    Just as long as they abandon any claims to Northern Schleswig

    Better yet would be if they abandon claims to Schleswig as a whole Yes, if I had my way the whole of Schleswig would be given back to Denmark and the old Danish-German border would be restored, as seen in this proposal. Schleswig had been part of Denmark for centuries before it was seized by the Germans, just as Silesia and Pommerania had been German territories for centuries until they were stolen by Stalin



    Quote Originally Posted by KraftAkt
    There are rumours that Russia under Jelzin made the proposal to give Eastern Prussia back to Germany (now Kaliningrad), because they had no real use for it and it costs them a high ammount of money.

    Helmut Kohl has rejected it though, because the Russians wanted 30 billion dollars.
    The end of the Cold War was about the best we could've hoped for considering that "hot war" was avoided. But it really is too bad for Germany that things didn't go slightly differently in the years 1989-1991, sure Western Germany and Central Germany (a.k.a "East" Germany) might have been re-united, but none of the territories of the true Eastern Germany were re-incorporated into the BRD, despite the total collapse of the Communists

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