View Poll Results: Should Germany regain its land?

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  • Just Austria

    38 22.49%
  • Territories gained during 1871-1918

    88 52.07%
  • Territories gained during 1939-1945

    53 31.36%
  • Its colonies

    17 10.06%
  • Other

    24 14.20%
  • None

    19 11.24%
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Thread: Germany's Lost Land

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannerheim
    This kind of europe would sure be better than its now.
    Hypothetic! Eventually it's just one hegemon(e)y replaced by another.
    Ceterum censeo Iudaeam esse delendam.

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannerheim
    This kind of europe would sure be better than its now.
    Is this a hyptothetic map after the Axis won WW2?

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Being a Colonial--I'd better defer to Zyklop, Norgau, Phlegathon, Raven, Blutwolfin, et al....

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie
    Is this a hyptothetic map after the Axis won WW2?
    Yes it is though i believe that if Germany had won ww2 then this whole map would been one big Grossdeutschland.

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie
    Is this a hyptothetic map after the Axis won WW2?
    No, it's Europe in 1943/1944. Italy had just signed the armistice with the Allies, and Mussolini founded the Italian Social Republic in the Northern part of the Italic Peninsula. Look at most Axis allies, their borders are pretty different as they had received territorial "gifts" for their loyalty to the III Reich:
    -Hungary had received Western Transylvania, South Slovakia and the Vojvodina.
    -Croatia had received Bosnia-Herzegovina and part of Serbia.
    -Romania had received Besarabia.
    -Albania had received Eastern Greece and Kosovo.
    -Bulgary had received Thrace and Yugoslav Macedonia.

    All those friends of Germany were going to change side quickly, as at that time War was already changing in favour of the Allies, especially in the Eastern front, were Soviet forces re-organised and quickly re-conquered much of their territory.

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    Re: Germany's lost land

    I see no reason to place such limits on the expansion of our peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaico
    No, it's Europe in 1943/1944. Italy had just signed the armistice with the Allies, and Mussolini founded the Italian Social Republic in the Northern part of the Italic Peninsula. Look at most Axis allies, their borders are pretty different as they had received territorial "gifts" for their loyalty to the III Reich:
    -Hungary had received Western Transylvania, South Slovakia and the Vojvodina.
    -Croatia had received Bosnia-Herzegovina and part of Serbia.
    -Romania had received Besarabia.
    -Albania had received Eastern Greece and Kosovo.
    -Bulgary had received Thrace and Yugoslav Macedonia.
    Sorry to object to your statement but although the map is very similar to the political situation in 43/44, Valkyrie is right it is hypothetical. It's from a finnish internet page and supposed to show the New Europe after an axis victory.
    Look for example at Finland (Grossfinland)- the finnish in WW2 only wanted to recover the land they lost to the sovjets in 1940 (Thats one of the reasons they didn't participate in any major attack at Leningrad or the Murmansk Railway).
    Also the Baltic states are much larger as they have been in WW2- during the war they had the same borders as before 1939. But nonetheless it is a fabulous map I only think Germany has a little too much land East of Eastprussia

    To the discussion of Germanies lost territories. I think that problem doesn't need to be resolved in the near future. There are far more serious problems all "white" europeans are facing now in the time of massimmigration. But I had an interesting discussion with an ultranationalist from Poland recently. And suprisingly he said that he didn't mind if Stettin or Breslau would become German once again. Same applies to the Sudentenland. I belive that if true nationalists from all the countries would sit together and search for an honest solution we would be able to find one, wich satisfies all sides. There are many good and decent people in all that countries we just have to belive in that and look for them.
    One day when Germany and Europe is strong and proud again the problems will dissolve like water in the sun.

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Graf Spee
    Sorry to object to your statement but although the map is very similar to the political situation in 43/44, Valkyrie is right it is hypothetical. It's from a finnish internet page and supposed to show the New Europe after an axis victory.
    Look for example at Finland (Grossfinland)- the finnish in WW2 only wanted to recover the land they lost to the sovjets in 1940 (Thats one of the reasons they didn't participate in any major attack at Leningrad or the Murmansk Railway).
    Also the Baltic states are much larger as they have been in WW2- during the war they had the same borders as before 1939. But nonetheless it is a fabulous map I only think Germany has a little too much land East of Eastprussia
    You're right it seems to be an hypothethical Europe, basing most of the borders on those of 1943. Even Northern Morocco is still part of the Spanish protectorate!



    Check out at this map, it was the SS wish for Europe:

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    Re: Germany's lost land




    Some more maps

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Germany`s lost land

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaico
    Check out at this map, it was the SS wish for Europe:


    Sounds quite good eventhough I'd made some states different and included also some more eastern regions like ukraine.
    Ceterum censeo Iudaeam esse delendam.

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